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hasbroherofan 07-25-2023 05:16 PM

I don't think the Marvel Legends team plans their line around what Shartimus does or doesn't like, tbh.

Veronica Mars 07-25-2023 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WallySparks (Post 923063)
well, Shartimusprime might have a problelm with a Silhouette figure that has crutches.

But I dont know Shartimusprime personally so dunno how he really feels about comic book characters with disabilties like Silhouette.

That's a very odd call out. As it was said, Hasbro doesn't plan around what they do around what any one reviewer thinks, and I believe the reviewer in question mentioned wanting a Silhouette figure in his review of one of the other New Warrior figures.


Now the real questions, what version of Namorita? Green bathing suit, blue skinned Kymaera or white Capri pants? What about New Warriors villains like Sea Urchin, Cardinal and Psionex? And most importantly who else wants a Micky and Mike Turbo 2 pack?

Dr Kain 07-25-2023 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Nash (Post 923055)
There could be issues with stereotypes and other feelings that are affected negatively with it being considered a disability. That would even be if crutches are temporary (which wouldn't be the case in Silhouette but regardless..)

I just think anything surrounding disabilities is something Hasbro could potentially be cautious about.

To be clear, it doesn't bother me one way or the other and I'm all for including the crutches should she get made. but I could see where it might bother other people.

That sounds very childish, honestly. Do people complain that Professor X is in a wheel chair?

WallySparks 07-25-2023 10:10 PM

Well excuse me, Veronica but have you seen the recent interview Shartimus did with those 3 Hasbro guys?

He was being an annoying pest where he was going on and on about why a Black Widow figure cost more than Storm and he was making the interview worse where he was trying to fore them to answer a question that they already had answered before.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Veronica Mars (Post 923082)
That's a very odd call out. As it was said, Hasbro doesn't plan around what they do around what any one reviewer thinks, and I believe the reviewer in question mentioned wanting a Silhouette figure in his review of one of the other New Warrior figures.


Now the real questions, what version of Namorita? Green bathing suit, blue skinned Kymaera or white Capri pants? What about New Warriors villains like Sea Urchin, Cardinal and Psionex? And most importantly who else wants a Micky and Mike Turbo 2 pack?


WallySparks 07-25-2023 10:14 PM

as for Namorita, I only know of Namorita in her classic green scale swimsuit outffit when she joined up with New Warriors back then.

If Hasbro announces a Silhouette figure later on maybe later this year or for next year. Big if if they ever do that

then I would definitely buy the Silhouette figure since she was an important member of old New Warriors. Not only was she a cripple where she had to use crutches but she was also a mutant so fans who buy up Marvel Legends mutants/X-Men figures they probably want a Silhouette figure also.

Things have happened over the couple past 2 years with the Age of Apocalypse figures we got anyway

Veronica Mars 07-25-2023 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WallySparks (Post 923086)
Well excuse me, Veronica but have you seen the recent interview Shartimus did with those 3 Hasbro guys?

He was being an annoying pest where he was going on and on about why a Black Widow figure cost more than Storm and he was making the interview worse where he was trying to fore them to answer a question that they already had answered before.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WallySparks (Post 923087)
as for Namorita, I only know of Namorita in her classic green scale swimsuit outffit when she joined up with New Warriors back then.

If Hasbro announces a Silhouette figure later on maybe later this year or for next year. Big if if they ever do that

then I would definitely buy the Silhouette figure since she was an important member of old New Warriors. Not only was she a cripple where she had to use crutches but she was also a mutant so fans who buy up Marvel Legends mutants/X-Men figures they probably want a Silhouette figure also.

Things have happened over the couple past 2 years with the Age of Apocalypse figures we got anyway

I did indeed see that interview and while he was being a jerk, nothing said in that interview in anyway made him seem ableist, whereas referring to someone real or fictional as a "cripple" is absolutely ableist

WallySparks 07-26-2023 05:37 AM

THat's not what Im saying.

the stuff that he was saying and pretty much commplaining in that youtube video to those 3 guys he was going on and on about why a Black Widow figure has more accessories and articulation than another female action figure among other things he was complaing about and at the same time those three guys were getting a little frustrated at him for not listening to what they were telling him.

But if you want to argue withe me or anyone else about it, then go ahead. I dont give a damn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veronica Mars (Post 923088)
I did indeed see that interview and while he was being a jerk, nothing said in that interview in anyway made him seem ableist, whereas referring to someone real or fictional as a "cripple" is absolutely ableist


TheBlueMarvel 07-26-2023 07:54 AM

Did we ever learn what Dan Yun was referencing in his SDCC 'final reveal' tweet?

Dr Kain 07-26-2023 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 923105)
Did we ever learn what Dan Yun was referencing in his SDCC 'final reveal' tweet?

I thought that was the female Shield/Hydra soldier two pack?

TheBlueMarvel 07-26-2023 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 923106)
I thought that was the female Shield/Hydra soldier two pack?

Ahhh, that's right, thanks. I was thinking something grander than an army builder, but I guess that counts in Hasbro’s schema.

While they’re working on new army builders, I wish Hasbro would provide additional opportunities to nab Skrull grunts and the Hellfire goons.

hasbroherofan 07-26-2023 09:30 AM

Now would’ve been the perfect time to put the Skrulls back out between Secret Invasion and The Marvels.

Dr Kain 07-26-2023 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 923109)
Ahhh, that's right, thanks. I was thinking something grander than an army builder, but I guess that counts in Hasbro’s schema.

While they’re working on new army builders, I wish Hasbro would provide additional opportunities to nab Skrull grunts and the Hellfire goons.

Agreed, but that seemed to be Hasbro's MO for SDCC this year. Their Joe team is the only line that I feel actually brought their A game. Every other team halfassed it. Then again, this SDCC in general was slipshod.

TheBlueMarvel 07-26-2023 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hasbroherofan (Post 923112)
Now would’ve been the perfect time to put the Skrulls back out between Secret Invasion and The Marvels.

Hadn’t thought about that bit of serendipitous timing, but it isn’t too late.

Hasbro Legends Team???

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 923114)
Agreed, but that seemed to be Hasbro's MO for SDCC this year. Their Joe team is the only line that I feel actually brought their A game. Every other team halfassed it. Then again, this SDCC in general was slipshod.

Yeah, Classifieds can do little wrong these days, but they are playing with house money…or, in this case, playing with in-house figures.

firmpulse 07-26-2023 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 923115)
Hadn’t thought about that bit of serendipitous timing, but it isn’t too late.

Hasbro Legends Team???

I saw the Super Skrull and Queen 2fer at Target Sunday.
(Also Doom and Cap Mavel)

WallySparks 07-26-2023 10:15 PM

Shartimusprime just did a new youtube video where hes talking out his butt.

He's now saying that he did that interview asking the questions for us to those 3 Hasbro guys.



Seriously?? Im supposed to believe that crap that just came out of his mouth in his new youtube video? He's asking them, the questions that he claims are from us? Seriously?? What kind of nonsense BS is that?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veronica Mars (Post 923082)
That's a very odd call out. As it was said, Hasbro doesn't plan around what they do around what any one reviewer thinks, and I believe the reviewer in question mentioned wanting a Silhouette figure in his review of one of the other New Warrior figures.


Now the real questions, what version of Namorita? Green bathing suit, blue skinned Kymaera or white Capri pants? What about New Warriors villains like Sea Urchin, Cardinal and Psionex? And most importantly who else wants a Micky and Mike Turbo 2 pack?


WallySparks 07-26-2023 10:16 PM

Here is his new youtube video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mSL2ljfvMs

Veronica Mars 07-26-2023 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WallySparks (Post 923135)
Shartimusprime just did a new youtube video where hes talking out his butt.

He's now saying that he did that interview asking the questions for us to those 3 Hasbro guys.



Seriously?? Im supposed to believe that crap that just came out of his mouth in his new youtube video? He's asking them, the questions that he claims are from us? Seriously?? What kind of nonsense BS is that?

You really don't want to keep this up.:rolleyes: Are you in his DMs? Do you know without a shadow of a doubt what his viewers ask or don't ask? You're devoting an awful lot of energy to Russ and his little corner of the interwebs. At the end of the day why? If you don't care for him, his attitude or his opinions why give him the views? Find a new fixation.

WallySparks 07-27-2023 06:25 AM

Excuse me but i just dont like Shartimusprime. He's a moron. Period

and those questions that he asked the Hasbro guys, he claims he's asking those questions for "us" to them. What a crock of BS



Quote:

Originally Posted by Veronica Mars (Post 923137)
You really don't want to keep this up.:rolleyes: Are you in his DMs? Do you know without a shadow of a doubt what his viewers ask or don't ask? You're devoting an awful lot of energy to Russ and his little corner of the interwebs. At the end of the day why? If you don't care for him, his attitude or his opinions why give him the views? Find a new fixation.


Trivial Psychic 07-27-2023 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WallySparks (Post 923141)
Excuse me but i just dont like Shartimusprime. He's a moron. Period

and those questions that he asked the Hasbro guys, he claims he's asking those questions for "us" to them. What a crock of BS

The thing is...HE IS asking those questions for us. These are questions that you see the toy community ask every single time a price increase is announced, or why a certain character is favored over another, or when a figure isn't on our favorite body mold of the moment, or a reissue is dealt with more accessories...etc...etc. Just read through the comments or message boards of any toy release on social...and the amount of questions, alongside the bitching and moaning is astounding and often drown out any sort positive reaction there could be.

A great deal of the toy collector community look to these "influencers" as a voice to get our concerns out, as many of them have access and ties to the companies that the average collector can only dream about. We want our concerns, our wants, and our complaints to be heard, no matter how small or minute. Some influencers lob softballs when presented opportunities to ask (Russ and Pixel Dan have been accused and criticized of this for years) and get hit with that "shill" label, while others (like TalkerArt, Retroblasting, Bobby Vala, and Anthony's Customs) tend to play hard ball with the companies and end up getting a reasonable amount of pushback because of it understandably. They might be branded as haters, sometimes honest, but one thing no one can ever call them is a shill.

In the case of Shartimus...he's been dragged as a shill for so long, it's clearly frustrated him. He went into the interview with an intent to prove his fandom wasn't bought and paid for, and unfortunately, it blew up in his face. Honestly...the questions that he asked were good ones and stuff that many of us have asked or complained about here or elsewhere over the years, the problem was his attitude and presentation of those questions. They were not well written, or thought out, and they lacked a lot of tact and bedside manner. He approached it like an inexperienced boxer in a heavyweight fight, hoping to end it quickly with a bunch or haymakers, not remembering that the team at Hasbro has faced far bigger and better foes than him (especially in their own corporate offices, this is their career and livelihood...it's not a hobby to them...) and they simply boxed him into a corner and pummeled him for it.

I give credit to Russ for sticking his neck out for the fans, he seems like a nice enough person who means well, and I find no fault in his quest to prove he's not a shill/sellout or whatever the term is these days, but you catch a lot more flies with honey than you do vinegar. I'm not sure if gaslighting the toy community for this disaster is the best thing for him to do though, because the truth is that a little bit more preparation and a better presentation would have really went a long way and saved him some of the grief he's facing now, especially if it comes at the cost of quite possibly having burned his bridges with a team that he's worked so often with over the years.

TheBlueMarvel 07-27-2023 07:42 AM

^Edit: The life of an influencer isn't always pretty and sometimes the tail wags the dog. Watching that video above made him a bit of a sympathetic character in my eyes. However, I don't watch him or any other reviewers, so I don't count myself as the best judge


Quote:

Originally Posted by firmpulse (Post 923116)
I saw the Super Skrull and Queen 2fer at Target Sunday.
(Also Doom and Cap Mavel)

I’ve got that set, but I’m not exactly sure why as I was never a huge Secret Invasion fan. I think Secret Invasion was my last active reading period seeing me shift the focus of my comic fandom exclusively to toys following the event. I got tired of spending $100-$150plus a week on books that weren’t as satisfying as they’d been just a few years before. We’ll need another proper Veranke as I think Hasbro was marketing that as a straight revisit of the 2packs they released when they first won the license. All of that said, I really just want the Skrull grunts and am a little miffed as to why they haven’t shown up again. I sort of understand the Hellfire goons not being available, they are on a mold that’s supposedly being phased out, although that process has stretched years at this point.

Dr Kain 07-27-2023 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WallySparks (Post 923141)
Excuse me but i just dont like Shartimusprime. He's a moron. Period

and those questions that he asked the Hasbro guys, he claims he's asking those questions for "us" to them. What a crock of BS

Don't you say that about every YouTuber though?

Why don't you start your own channel then and go to conventions to interview Hasbro's peeps with questions the fans want?

Veronica Mars 07-27-2023 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WallySparks (Post 923141)
Excuse me but i just dont like Shartimusprime. He's a moron. Period

and those questions that he asked the Hasbro guys, he claims he's asking those questions for "us" to them. What a crock of BS

Then quite simply.... don't watch. There are plenty of other fish in the sea so to speak

hasbroherofan 07-27-2023 08:44 AM

All this controversy is almost making me wanna actually watch the video.

sh002 07-27-2023 08:49 AM

https://www.toyark.com/forums/attach...1&d=1690472888

TheBlueMarvel 07-27-2023 09:54 AM

^That thing never stops being impressive

Quote:

Originally Posted by hasbroherofan (Post 923148)
All this controversy is almost making me wanna actually watch the video.

It’s cringey, but he essentially falls on his sword for ‘The Big Three’ while repeatedly genuflecting to his viewers. It’s the kind of line straddling I imagine many influencers have to walk if they want access and fans.


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