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IzzyTipsy 09-16-2022 11:21 AM

It's nice but not $350 worth. I bought a larger Figma size Tank a few years back for like $150 that was also motorized. I've bought 1/12th diecast cars with opening parts off of AmiAmi for like $200.

What makes this cost so much?

80sforged 09-16-2022 11:53 AM

Car looks nice. But wow, 350... I'll wait and see. Maybe throw in a classic flaming skull head and a Gabriel Luna head (a real stretch in more ways than one) as stretch goals. I am most familiar with this incarnation from the Agents of SHIELD TV show.

Harbinger 09-16-2022 12:11 PM

Hasbro is fuckin’ crazy if they think this garbage is worth 350.

Boogieman4hire 09-16-2022 12:55 PM

My lord that's a lot of money. I don't know about the price justification on that but it is pretty. I was expecting $200 with maybe a couple of tiers but this is nuts. Granted the car is a lot more complex than I thought they were going to get. I have the Bratz FM Cruiser and that thing is a masterpiece that I got for only $40 last year and it probably costed even less than that when it was released in like 2005. It has: rubber wheels that turn, opening doors, opening trunk, a working glove compartment, moveable gear shift, light up head & tail lights, working horn,seats with actual removable soft goods seat covers, steering wheel that actually turns the front tires, a removable rubber steering wheel cover, working seat belts, removable rubber floor mats, and finally a working fm radio with audio control. I'm honestly not even sure if I got everything. Oh yeah the dashboard has a clear plastic cover over the speedometer and you can lock the doors which is just another nice little touch. If you have the money go for it, but I admit I feel a little spoiled by what I already have and what it's given me in comparison. OneTwelveGarage had put up a Charger a few months ago on BigBadToyStore for $100. Some of you could go that route and see if someone sells the Robbie individually or make a custom and put it in there.I actually had it preordered but pulling out the FM Cruiser it just paled in comparison. It looked like ass. The Haslab fares much better. One thing I'm wondering is if they have to pay licensing to produce that car model. I don't know enough about cars to know whether that's a specific model or if it's been designed generically enough to avoid. The FM Cruiser for example is a Cadillac but not any specific model of car hence no royalties to produce it.

T0ySick 09-16-2022 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boogieman4hire (Post 906905)
My lord that's a lot of money. I don't know about the price justification on that but it is pretty. I was expecting $200 with maybe a couple of tiers but this is nuts. Granted the car is a lot more complex than I thought they were going to get. I have the Bratz FM Cruiser and that thing is a masterpiece that I got for only $40 last year and it probably costed even less than that when it was released in like 2005. It has: rubber wheels that turn, opening doors, opening trunk, a working glove compartment, moveable gear shift, light up head & tail lights, working horn,seats with actual removable soft goods seat covers, steering wheel that actually turns the front tires, a removable rubber steering wheel cover, working seat belts, removable rubber floor mats, and finally a working fm radio with audio control. I'm honestly not even sure if I got everything. Oh yeah the dashboard has a clear plastic cover over the speedometer and you can lock the doors which is just another nice little touch. If you have the money go for it, but I admit I feel a little spoiled by what I already have and what it's given me in comparison. OneTwelveGarage had put up a Charger a few months ago on BigBadToyStore for $100. Some of you could go that route and see if someone sells the Robbie individually or make a custom and put it in there.I actually had it preordered but pulling out the FM Cruiser it just paled in comparison. It looked like ass. The Haslab fares much better. One thing I'm wondering is if they have to pay licensing to produce that car model. I don't know enough about cars to know whether that's a specific model or if it's been designed generically enough to avoid. The FM Cruiser for example is a Cadillac but not any specific model of car hence no royalties to produce it.

I'm sure the FM cruiser is loosely based on the 57 Chevy. Man if hasbro produced that and not MGA it would be $300 easy. Cuz you know space age plastic.

Jeddostotle7 09-16-2022 01:36 PM

This looks really cool..... but $350? Ouch. Not worth it IMO.

I get they kinda price in the stretch goals with the asking price, but I feel like with previous (successful) HasLabs they strike a better balance, where the initial asking price seems a bit steep for what's initially presented but not outrageous, and then once all the stretch goals are reached it seems like somewhat of a bargain.

With this one the initial asking price is WAY over for what's initially presented, and even with each stretch goal being a whole 6" figure I can only just see the whole package including stretches seeming like a semi-decent value for the money.

protostar8 09-16-2022 02:28 PM

$350 is insane for what's right there.
There is no realm where $3 million dollars is needed to develop that. Remember, each tier is an additional amount of funding dollars to cover the new unlock's development costs, etc.

ShabbyBlue 09-16-2022 02:35 PM

I'd like to point out that in the Target system now is a McFarlane 1989 Batmobile listed for $80 for a Fall release, and is scaled for his 7" figures. So yeah, the price on this Haslab is absurd when compared to that or the HISS Tank or other recent kickstarters. This will be the first Marvel Haslab I pass on, and based on comments here it sounds like others will be too. The car is impressive, but not $350 impressive, and Ghost Rider has never interested me that much. Hopefully the tier stretch goals are really impressive to help justify this price for those backing it.

Kernel 09-16-2022 03:30 PM

Someone at SDCC asked if they'd do marvel fortnite skins and some dipstick on the hasbro panel yelled "no! Not doing it!"

Well as for crowdfunding this
"No! Not doing it"

goliathfasa 09-16-2022 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kernel (Post 906915)
Someone at SDCC asked if they'd do marvel fortnite skins and some dipstick on the hasbro panel yelled "no! Not doing it!"

Wait really? Haven't heard of that. That's so odd. They did the Fornite Snake Eye didn't they?

Very strange they'd just dismiss it outright.

Raine24 09-16-2022 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShabbyBlue (Post 906911)
I'd like to point out that in the Target system now is a McFarlane 1989 Batmobile listed for $80 for a Fall release, and is scaled for his 7" figures.

This is a legit dream item for me, and the best news I've gotten in a long time. So very long. 100x cooler than Ghost Driver for sure.

OldDevilDoc 09-16-2022 04:09 PM

I guess I am old school, I'd rather have seen Johnny Blaze and the motorcycle. I was too late to get the XM Studios, and this could have been its replacement.

MeLikeJinx 09-16-2022 04:21 PM

Looks gorgeous IMO... but I already switched to "deep clearance stuff," "must buys only," and "time to finish the holes in my teams" mode for my marvel legends collecting.

Condiment King 09-16-2022 04:46 PM

The Hiss tank was a bargain compared to this. Also, if anyone over at Hasbro is reading, if you ever decide to do an X-Men animated series Blackbird Haslab, I may just be convinced to go all in on the line, please and thank you.

GizmoTron 09-16-2022 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goliathfasa (Post 906916)
Wait really? Haven't heard of that. That's so odd. They did the Fornite Snake Eye didn't they?

Very strange they'd just dismiss it outright.

License of a license of a license probably ruled that all out.

Raine24 09-16-2022 05:26 PM

I'm getting real vibes of "we tried to solicit this to retailers and they said no to the box size so we added a couple features and called it a Haslab." Take away the swap-out street accessories, drop the moving interior parts, and I could see this on a store shelf for $80.

Kernel 09-16-2022 05:27 PM

@ gizmotron maybe but hasbro already has marvel and fortnite 6" licenses

Quote:

Originally Posted by goliathfasa (Post 906916)
Wait really? Haven't heard of that. That's so odd. They did the Fornite Snake Eye didn't they?

Very strange they'd just dismiss it outright.

Right? 1:48 mark below

https://youtu.be/aSRvn19IXiA

AFU 09-16-2022 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShabbyBlue (Post 906911)
I'd like to point out that in the Target system now is a McFarlane 1989 Batmobile listed for $80 for a Fall release, and is scaled for his 7" figures. So yeah, the price on this Haslab is absurd when compared to that or the HISS Tank or other recent kickstarters. This will be the first Marvel Haslab I pass on, and based on comments here it sounds like others will be too. The car is impressive, but not $350 impressive, and Ghost Rider has never interested me that much. Hopefully the tier stretch goals are really impressive to help justify this price for those backing it.

I know that this is off topic, but McFarlane 1989 Batmobile, the best Batmobile in my opinion, is being made. Man, now that is awesome news, for REAL!

GizmoTron 09-16-2022 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kernel (Post 906927)
@ gizmotron maybe but hasbro already has marvel and fortnite 6" licenses



Right? 1:48 mark below

https://youtu.be/aSRvn19IXiA

But not together, might be an issue when combining licenses. Plus didn't the Fornite team make the Snake Eyes and not the regular Joe team? It's not a Classified figure, so it makes it unlikely there would be Legends figures (especially since Gamerverse outside of Spidey is seemingly been buried).

Designincase 09-16-2022 06:18 PM

Until we see the Mcfarlane Batmobile, I'm not sure it's evidence of anything.

I had a chance to visit Target. Saw their RC and 1:12 car selection.
On the RC side you have paper thin hollow plastic coverings. On the other you have solid bricks that have no interiors. Much much "articulated interiors".



It's not just volume. We got multiple LED lights installed. The multiple accessories for the fire and normal mode. Plus the figure itself.

I still think it's at least $100 too expensive despite all of this. Moreso I'm surprised they couldn't get this on the fanchannel train at least.

The bottom of the car needs to be painted because for $350 I expect every mm of that thing to have paint.

I think we all have the same sentiment. It looks good, not for it's price point good.

Though some people are being venomous like Hasbro is a drug dealer that beats your puppy if you don't pay up.

Boogieman4hire 09-16-2022 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShabbyBlue (Post 906911)
I'd like to point out that in the Target system now is a McFarlane 1989 Batmobile listed for $80 for a Fall release, and is scaled for his 7" figures. So yeah, the price on this Haslab is absurd when compared to that or the HISS Tank or other recent kickstarters. This will be the first Marvel Haslab I pass on, and based on comments here it sounds like others will be too. The car is impressive, but not $350 impressive, and Ghost Rider has never interested me that much. Hopefully the tier stretch goals are really impressive to help justify this price for those backing it.

Now that is an amazing prospect. That is a dream vehicle of mine. 100% favorite batmoblie ever.

Kernel 09-16-2022 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShabbyBlue (Post 906911)
I'd like to point out that in the Target system now is a McFarlane 1989 Batmobile listed for $80 for a Fall release, and is scaled for his 7" figures. So yeah, the price on this Haslab is absurd when compared to that or the HISS Tank or other recent kickstarters. This will be the first Marvel Haslab I pass on, and based on comments here it sounds like others will be too. The car is impressive, but not $350 impressive, and Ghost Rider has never interested me that much. Hopefully the tier stretch goals are really impressive to help justify this price for those backing it.

I remember when haslab was pushing a rancor and then walking into a target shortly after and buying a McFarlane Clayface that was pretty comparable for like $40... it wasn't as big as the rancor but it was a solid figure and one of my favorites last year

Quote:

Originally Posted by GizmoTron (Post 906930)
But not together, might be an issue when combining licenses. Plus didn't the Fornite team make the Snake Eyes and not the regular Joe team? It's not a Classified figure, so it makes it unlikely there would be Legends figures (especially since Gamerverse outside of Spidey is seemingly been buried).

Yeah maybe I know they've done a few crossovers who knows I really loved some of the marvel fortnite designs (tactical mystique) and I wish jazwares would get the 4" marvel license

Quote:

Originally Posted by Designincase (Post 906931)
Until we see the Mcfarlane Batmobile, I'm not sure it's evidence of anything.

I had a chance to visit Target. Saw their RC and 1:12 car selection.
On the RC side you have paper thin hollow plastic coverings. On the other you have solid bricks that have no interiors. Much much "articulated interiors".



It's not just volume. We got multiple LED lights installed. The multiple accessories for the fire and normal mode. Plus the figure itself.

I still think it's at least $100 too expensive despite all of this. Moreso I'm surprised they couldn't get this on the fanchannel train at least.

The bottom of the car needs to be painted because for $350 I expect every mm of that thing to have paint.

I think we all have the same sentiment. It looks good, not for it's price point good.

Though some people are being venomous like Hasbro is a drug dealer that beats your puppy if you don't pay up.

You can get LED lights at the dollar store lol... for $350 the underside not only needs to be painted it needs to include a real working catalytic converter lol

Designincase 09-16-2022 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kernel (Post 906937)


You can get LED lights at the dollar store lol...


Because the dollar store buys in bulk to get those prices down. But that's really the expensive part. It's wiring up those LED lights that ups the cost.

Kernel 09-16-2022 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Designincase (Post 906938)
Because the dollar store buys in bulk to get those prices down. But that's really the expensive part. It's wiring up those LED lights that ups the cost.

I see... well I looked at the video I don't think the underside is painted or it's just all one color. It also looks like the back of mephistos head at the end so he might be a stretch goal

Boogieman4hire 09-16-2022 10:42 PM

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It also looks like the back of mephistos head at the end so he might be a stretch goal

Beat me to it. That's what a stretch goal is but I honestly think I could just say yes I'll take it if he was already in the package deal.
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