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kylactus 09-04-2015 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madame Warlock (Post 617364)
like you say your problem is one thing but then you go on to reveal a lot of really socially regressive leanings...

I don't think it's lazy storytelling. It's a soft reboot, like New 52 except done sort of right.

The fact is that most of these characters have been around since the 60s/70s and unfortunately things were a lot less progressive than they are nowadays. A lot of groups got shut out of feeling like they could be heroes too, and that's really hurtful. The movies are largely white dude fests, which isn't a lot of fun for someone like me who wants to see She Hulk, or Kamala Khan, or Wasp, or god forbid a character who's queer like me(Valkyrie? Idk, not that many queer characters in Marvel really esp. outside of X-verse).

It's not about offending people. It's about making sure that as many people as possible. Plus, it helps keep things fresh and interesting and gives you more archetypes, character histories etc. to draw from. Ms. Marvel/Kamala Khan is a great example of that. It wouldn't be the same comic if she wasn't Muslim, even if her being Muslim isn't really the central point of it. There's no reason why we should only pander to straight white cis dudes.

Writing it off as "offence" thing is deeply disrespectful towards everyone like me. I honestly don't feel comfortable hearing the term PC at all and would appreciate you didn't use it. It's not because I'm somehow oversensitive, it's because i have a long history of bullying, abuse and even violence that couldn't imagine. I've dealt with a lot more than most people. And I think I deserve more respect than to be treated like a whiny baby, which tbh describes most entitled white dude geeks more accurately anyway.

When you complain about PC what you're really saying is "I don't respect you as a human being in the slightest." You're saying you don't care about other people's struggles, or don't want to hear about them. You're writing off equality as part of some liberal conspiracy rather than a very real need for a lot of people.

We need to call a spade a spade and not pretending that this sort of thing is a cute opinion - it's not. It's malice. And I would really appreciate if people stopped doing it.

PC is short for politically correct. it's in the dictionary and not "hate speech" look it up. I do respect you, I think your customs are awesome. as a fellow collector I'm sure we have a lot in common. I don't care about other peoples struggles, that's the way it should be! do you give a damn that the straight white male is being constantly cast as the villain in our society? do you "respect" the fact that some people may not like your particular life choices? do you want tolerance, or validation? do you even know the difference? I personally don't have a problem with anyone, or how they choose to live there lives.... my problem is when you feel it's necessary to wear it like a badge of honor, and shove it down my throat. We're all who we are, who the fuck cares!?! I don't give a shit how you dress or who you go home with. but if you were really interested in "furthering your cause" you'd be pushing for Rictor and North star to get better representation, not trying to retcon mainstream characters into being gay (ice man). the same goes for the sex/ race shifts as of late! pressure Marvel to give Blade, Luke Cage, Storm, Val, X-23, Falcon, there own titles! instead it comes off as pathetic that they just borrow a main stays name to further the "diversity" I'm sure whatever university you attend has told you that everything in the world is controlled by the "evil straight white man" but trust me no one's out to get you, we're all cool here, and just like you precious opinion, mine counts too, so next time you want to come at me like I'm anything other than a fan of a fantastic property that has been as of late, shit on by sloppy political correct writing by so called "progressive" ass clowns that aren't worthy to script Ziggy, remember I've been reading Marvel comics since before your mama was letting you choose what color pampers to put on. Trust me we're all being dealt a serious dis service by the current story telling, it will go down in history as a bigger f up than the clone wars.

Kamatayan 09-04-2015 08:41 PM

Looking at EMH season 3 concept art and found this. It's a shame it got cancelled. And this episode would have been so funny with all the possible references about Chris Evans being Captain America and the Human Torch.

http://i.imgur.com/rikjFNE.jpg

deathofthelines 09-04-2015 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamatayan (Post 617385)
Looking at EMH season 3 concept art and found this. It's a shame it got cancelled. And this episode would have been so funny with all the possible references about Chris Evans being Captain America and the Human Torch.

http://i.imgur.com/rikjFNE.jpg

Would have been sweet. Still could happen on avengers assemble. Just change wasp to widow and boom. Now I hope they do it

UrsaMagnus 09-04-2015 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mutantkind (Post 617374)
I took the cape from a Wolverine & The X-men Magneto and put it on my Secret Wars 2-pack figure.

I was wondering where that cape was from.

Il Cattivo 09-04-2015 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mutantkind (Post 617308)
Thanks but no thanks on taking my mutants! As they've all been fairly recent purchases, my toy chi is practically nonexistent! What are you saving for?



From what I've researched on the topic, I believe so. The custom was hollowed out and repainted. My figure has to do some serious yoga posing to fit inside!

EDIT: Added some images for scale.

http://i.imgur.com/0WlvQYf.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/sj8QqBI.jpg

nice!

sooo much more accurate scale-wise than the 3 3/4 one.

Kamatayan 09-04-2015 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mutantkind (Post 617308)
Thanks but no thanks on taking my mutants! As they've all been fairly recent purchases, my toy chi is practically nonexistent! What are you saving for?



From what I've researched on the topic, I believe so. The custom was hollowed out and repainted. My figure has to do some serious yoga posing to fit inside!

EDIT: Added some images for scale.

http://i.imgur.com/0WlvQYf.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/sj8QqBI.jpg

Darn! This is bad for my collection. That means that the height of all my bruisers are way off now that I think about it!

Kamatayan 09-04-2015 10:01 PM

I was able to snap a few pics today. Some of my favorite figures in my collection and some Anti-Venom pics.

http://i.imgur.com/FIcgT5I.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/IifQ1rZ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/4pDBpfg.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by mutantkind (Post 617308)
Thanks but no thanks on taking my mutants! As they've all been fairly recent purchases, my toy chi is practically nonexistent! What are you saving for?

The Anti-Venom in these pics was what I was saving for. If you guys look hard, you can see a lot of problems with the Anti-Venom figure. The guy I bought it from said I was collector owned. It had to be owned by a child before he got it. There's a lot of chipped off paint on the back and it's been through Hell. No collector would mistreat a figure like that unless he grew up with it. And obviously, he didn't grow up with it. But it's my fault for not noticing the blemishes prior to purchasing it. But despite all of this, I am very, VERY happy with my purchase. Anti-Venom is an amazing figure and easily my favorite figure in my collection. If only I looked harder before I purchased it I would have offered a lower price. Again, still extremely satisfied with my purchase.

From this experience I have learned a very important lesson that applies to all of you. Always, always look very hard at pictures before purchasing. I can't stress this enough.

kylactus 09-04-2015 10:22 PM

I've got a an Anti MIB and his paint is crap too. I think the Movie figs just don't get the love that the main lines receive. look close at the black paint chips, are they really just a poor paint job? if they are scuffs there will be a pattern. mine is almost missing his whole right third down spider arm. I just think he was in a "kids" line so the QC was lax.

P.S. love your punisher in those pics! the coat flows nicely.

Kamatayan 09-04-2015 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylactus (Post 617394)
I've got a an Anti MIB and his paint is crap too. I think the Movie figs just don't get the love that the main lines receive. look close at the black paint chips, are they really just a poor paint job? if they are scuffs there will be a pattern. mine is almost missing his whole right third down spider arm. I just think he was in a "kids" line so the QC was lax.

P.S. love your punisher in those pics! the coat flows nicely.

So you're saying that most of the flaws on my Anti-Venom is not because it was played with but rather because of bad quality control? Maybe I'm not reading it right since it's 1:30 AM. Also, thanks for the Punisher compliments! He's one of my favorite figures to modify and put a of different accessories on because there are so many choices.

deathofthelines 09-04-2015 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamatayan (Post 617391)
I was able to snap a few pics today. Some of my favorite figures in my collection and some Anti-Venom pics.

http://i.imgur.com/FIcgT5I.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/IifQ1rZ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/4pDBpfg.jpg



The Anti-Venom in these pics was what I was saving for. If you guys look hard, you can see a lot of problems with the Anti-Venom figure. The guy I bought it from said I was collector owned. It had to be owned by a child before he got it. There's a lot of chipped off paint on the back and it's been through Hell. No collector would mistreat a figure like that unless he grew up with it. And obviously, he didn't grow up with it. But it's my fault for not noticing the blemishes prior to purchasing it. But despite all of this, I am very, VERY happy with my purchase. Anti-Venom is an amazing figure and easily my favorite figure in my collection. If only I looked harder before I purchased it I would have offered a lower price. Again, still extremely satisfied with my purchase.

From this experience I have learned a very important lesson that applies to all of you. Always, always look very hard at pictures before purchasing. I can't stress this enough.

Pretty sure all antivenom had crap paint apps, one of these reasons most people I've read about on different forums gave up on getting him unless they were die hard completion is or just truly loved the fig

kylactus 09-04-2015 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamatayan (Post 617395)
So you're saying that most of the flaws on my Anti-Venom is not because it was played with but rather because of bad quality control? Maybe I'm not reading it right since it's 1:30 AM. Also, thanks for the Punisher compliments! He's one of my favorite figures to modify and put a of different accessories on because there are so many choices.

yeah, I don't think anyone has an Antivenom with great paint, hell in the pics yours looks better than mine in box!

Punisher is fun to play with! you can pretty much make him look like anything from Frankenstein to a dude in a t shirt and he's good to go.

Kamatayan 09-04-2015 11:35 PM

If that's the case then I'm not that upset about it. Also, is anyone else having the problem with the parts stretching out above this figure's head being cut off a little. Just wanna know if that is also a quality control problem.

LapuLapu 09-05-2015 07:22 AM

http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/...05D9806CC5.jpg

Universe 09-05-2015 08:40 AM

Great shot, LapuLapu!

Ninjinister 09-05-2015 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LapuLapu (Post 617420)
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/...05D9806CC5.jpg

Frickin' wicked.

Pilkster 09-05-2015 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninjinister (Post 617431)
Frickin' wicked.

I sooooooo need that flame phoinex accessory!!!

bmorr 09-05-2015 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 617265)
Old Man Logan will coexist with everyone else in the new single universe but X-23 will hold the title of Wolverine. They could choose to bring back Wolverine and have that weird dynamic like recently happened with the "all new X-men" and their normal selves.

If OML stays, i want him to turn into something akin to Big Boss in Metal Gear.

UrsaMagnus 09-05-2015 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilkster (Post 617439)
I sooooooo need that flame phoinex accessory!!!

Truth. There are so many of the base accessories released with the Select figures that would be pure gold at this scale.

redfox 09-05-2015 12:02 PM

Love that Dark Phoenix pic, LapuLapu! So disappointed that we haven't got a green Phoenix, though.

kostej 09-05-2015 01:31 PM

Thanks for the suggestion on mounting repainted Ms. Marvel head on original Ms. Marvel body to create Dark Ms. Marvel figure. I know it is not perfect but it is adequate substitute for my Dark Avengers team.
http://content.screencast.com/users/...09-05_2228.png

Pilkster 09-05-2015 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kostej (Post 617456)
Thanks for the suggestion on mounting repainted Ms. Marvel head on original Ms. Marvel body to create Dark Ms. Marvel figure. I know it is not perfect but it is adequate substitute for my Dark Avengers team.
http://content.screencast.com/users/...09-05_2228.png

I need to do the same until I find one

Kernel 09-05-2015 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kostej (Post 617456)
Thanks for the suggestion on mounting repainted Ms. Marvel head on original Ms. Marvel body to create Dark Ms. Marvel figure. I know it is not perfect but it is adequate substitute for my Dark Avengers team.
http://content.screencast.com/users/...09-05_2228.png

Looks great! I would not have even bothered repainting it but that does look more accurate. Great job on the eyes.

En Sabah Nerd 09-05-2015 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmorr (Post 617440)
If OML stays, i want him to turn into something akin to Big Boss in Metal Gear.

I think it could be cool for him to confront Mysterio. Since (I'm assuming) Quentin Beck will still be around it would be interesting to see OML handle the guy who tricked him into killing the X-men in his time but Mysterio would have no clue why he's being targeted. I love a good Mysterio story.

Kernel 09-05-2015 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madame Warlock (Post 617364)

I don't think it's lazy storytelling. It's a soft reboot, like New 52 except done sort of right.

The fact is that most of these characters have been around since the 60s/70s and unfortunately things were a lot less progressive than they are nowadays. A lot of groups got shut out of feeling like they could be heroes too, and that's really hurtful. The movies are largely white dude fests, which isn't a lot of fun for someone like me who wants to see She Hulk, or Kamala Khan, or Wasp, or god forbid a character who's queer like me(Valkyrie? Idk, not that many queer characters in Marvel really esp. outside of X-verse).

Funny last time I went to LCS we were talking about how marvel has probably wanted to do a reboot for years but the LCS guy was saying how marvel waited to see how DC's reboot went down/ how it was received. I did like time runs out and some of the characters they brought back (OML and maestro). Secret Wars has been great.

Speaking of maestro, I'll repost an old maestro throphy room pic:

http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...psluupbjle.jpg

Kernel 09-05-2015 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 617467)
I think it could be cool for him to confront Mysterio. Since (I'm assuming) Quentin Beck will still be around it would be interesting to see OML handle the guy who tricked him into killing the X-men in his time but Mysterio would have no clue why he's being targeted. I love a good Mysterio story.

I'd love to see Logan pop his claws on mysterio. Speaking of OML, here's an old pic I posted on fathers day:

http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...psmy3n5x9j.jpg


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