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Pilkster 10-10-2015 05:38 AM

I didn't want to have to do this but when is the right time to call someone out? I have a friend on the boards that made a trade with a respected member and still hasn't had his items.. The member in question got his side of the trade but after countless excuses and assurances it's been sent is still waiting after a month. I don't want to start a with hunt or name names but where would you guys draw the line.. my friend doesn't want to put anything up as he thinks it might cause trouble because he is well liked but to be honest it shouldn't matter. I know other users have had issues but havnt mentioned anything and they don't have to come forward but if we are one community that share and care then we all should know and have a say so what are your thoughts?

Pilkster 10-10-2015 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mutantkind (Post 622949)
Thanks @DarkToyLord!

While we're on the topic of Tony's lab... I just cleared out my local Ross stores of their Hall of Armors. I picked up 6 in total for $5.99 each! And the first thing I did with them...

"Like what I've done with the place??"
http://i.imgur.com/lMht0Fv.jpg
One arms dealer's nightmare is this mercenary's dream.

Great work again mutant kind

Kamatayan 10-10-2015 06:11 AM

You're killing me here @mutantkind. Every time you post a picture I have to compliment it because every picture you've posted is a plastic masterpiece.

Kamatayan 10-10-2015 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilkster (Post 622950)
I didn't want to have to do this but when is the right time to call someone out? I have a friend on the boards that made a trade with a respected member and still hasn't had his items.. The member in question got his side of the trade but after countless excuses and assurances it's been sent is still waiting after a month. I don't want to start a with hunt or name names but where would you guys draw the line.. my friend doesn't want to put anything up as he thinks it might cause trouble because he is well liked but to be honest it shouldn't matter. I know other users have had issues but havnt mentioned anything and they don't have to come forward but if we are one community that share and care then we all should know and have a say so what are your thoughts?

I think it would be appropriate to PM an admin at this point. If I were in this scenario I wouldn't care about someone's rep at this point. But do you believe this person or is he obviously bullshitting your friend?

Also, you have to ask yourself if the item that's being sent is worth possibly ruining someone's reputation.

Pilkster 10-10-2015 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamatayan (Post 622954)
I think it would be appropriate to PM an admin at this point. If I were in this scenario I wouldn't care about someone's rep at this point. But do you believe this person or is he obviously bullshitting your friend?

Also, you have to ask yourself if the item that's being sent is worth possibly ruining someone's reputation.

So are you saying if the item is insignificant to 1 person but means a lot to another then it's not worth saying anything? So if you sent $30 worth of stuff to someone and never got it back then is it really worth ruining that persons reputation for that $30?? Wow!! We I certainly hope you don't get screwed over at any point. ..

jedirulz123 10-10-2015 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilkster (Post 622950)
If we are one community that share and care then we all should know and have a say so what are your thoughts?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamatayan (Post 622954)
I think it would be appropriate to PM an admin at this point. If I were in this scenario I wouldn't care about someone's rep at this point. But do you believe this person or is he obviously bullshitting your friend?

Also, you have to ask yourself if the item that's being sent is worth possibly ruining someone's reputation.

As it was my bits Pilk's referring to and UKMU who still has yet to send them, I'd say yeah it's worth ruining his false good name.
Too long has he been screwing around with people, taking months to send a few figures, or just not sending them at all, and it is not on.
He does a deal, you send your stuff, then he comes back and asks for more, and it you don't comply, you don't get your stuff. All while some guilt trip is in play; "I've just done 2 months work in 2 weeks" was his last one. Apparently he can't spare an hour to run to the post office. Ever. At all.
I sent him money for postage, I sent him cast heads from Vort he said he'd paint for me, I sent him a cape for trade, never receiving anything. I'd call that theft.

UKMU is a thief and a conman.

No doubt he'll return in a few months, possibly Christmas time, hoping we'll all have forgotten he's a bad trader and a criminal, but I won't have.

Kamatayan 10-10-2015 07:47 AM

I had a feeling that you guys were talking about Ukmu.

It's all up to you guys. I really don't think Ukmu of all people would be a conman, but it is what it is.

But before we start getting deep into accusations you guys should track down all of Ukmu's supposed victims and get some confirmation or something. This seems too bad to be true.

Jimmyo 10-10-2015 08:05 AM

To be honest one scam is too many, it is what it is at the end of the day and Jedirulez is without his items or the ones he was supposed to receive.

Scammers should be outed so nobone else falls foul

Jimmyo 10-10-2015 08:11 AM

I have lost over £200 to scammers since getting into this hobbie, all to customisers 1 of which I felt like family with, I even sent the guy a Baghdad spidey as a free gift so fuck a thief imho

Pilkster 10-10-2015 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmyo (Post 622962)
To be honest one scam is too many, it is what it is at the end of the day and Jedirulez is without his items or the ones he was supposed to receive.

Scammers should be outed so nobone else falls foul

I myself have been coned a few times and again from someone I was really close with and got to know really well over the last 2 years.. but like you said a problem should be reported and people should be made aware.

jedirulz123 10-10-2015 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamatayan (Post 622961)
But before we start getting deep into accusations you guys should track down all of Ukmu's supposed victims and get some confirmation or something. This seems too bad to be true.

Well there's me, Jimmyo is owed decals, Kernel is owed a piece of Vision art, and he's screwed around with Pilkster's deals many times.

Il Cattivo 10-10-2015 11:07 AM

this is why I don't do trades. can't trust anyone...

deathofthelines 10-10-2015 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mutantkind (Post 622949)
Thanks @DarkToyLord!

While we're on the topic of Tony's lab... I just cleared out my local Ross stores of their Hall of Armors. I picked up 6 in total for $5.99 each! And the first thing I did with them...

"Like what I've done with the place??"
http://i.imgur.com/lMht0Fv.jpg
One arms dealer's nightmare is this mercenary's dream.

Are those dollar store click lights on top of them??

Madame Warlock 10-10-2015 11:42 AM

Wish the Carol had swappable heads. Not sure which version I want.

mutantkind 10-10-2015 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilkster (Post 622951)
Great work again mutant kind

Thanks @Plikster! You're too kind.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamatayan (Post 622953)
You're killing me here @mutantkind. Every time you post a picture I have to compliment it because every picture you've posted is a plastic masterpiece.

Much appreciated @Kamatayan! I love my figures and I love photography so I'm just glad others can enjoy what I do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathofthelines (Post 622978)
Are those dollar store click lights on top of them??

Yeah. 3-pack from Amazon for five bucks. Battery operated LED floods.

...
And because I haven't posted this edit yet, here's an update to an earlier shot.
http://i.imgur.com/nqSkC8R.jpg

Autobot_Goldbug 10-10-2015 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Il Cattivo (Post 622977)
this is why I don't do trades. can't trust anyone...

not true I have done many trades

I only got conned a long time back. I saw an ad on a message board I think it was AOL(just to give you an idea how long back). The stuff he sent me was broken junk.

Since everyone involved is in the U.K. maybe you guys can contact the authorities?

jedirulz123 10-10-2015 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autobot_Goldbug (Post 622985)
Since everyone involved is in the U.K. maybe you guys can contact the authorities?

I'm thinking, Law lives near-ish Ukmu.

Any chance you could help me out Law?

En Sabah Nerd 10-10-2015 01:15 PM

Isn't it possible that some of you are being a just tad too quick to put labels on Ukmu? I mean if what you're saying is true then that's one thing, but what if he's dealing with some serious personal stuff and has higher priorities right now than fulfilling trades? It just seems rash to be calling someone out without them getting to say a word for themselves. Maybe I'm playing devil's advocate here but I'd like to think that people here on the Ark are at least decent and don't necessarily deserve to be called a con artist without a shot of defense.

jedirulz123 10-10-2015 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 622994)
Isn't it possible that some of you are being a just tad too quick to put labels on Ukmu? I mean if what you're saying is true then that's one thing, but what if he's dealing with some serious personal stuff and has higher priorities right now than fulfilling trades? It just seems rash to be calling someone out without them getting to say a word for themselves. Maybe I'm playing devil's advocate here but I'd like to think that people here on the Ark are at least decent and don't necessarily deserve to be called a con artist without a shot of defense.

Well when you say 3 times you've sent a package, each time being a lie, then disappear without a trace with my stuff, I'd say you've earned the moniker.

Until he shows up with a decent, truthful explanation I'm sticking to my guns.

Pilkster 10-10-2015 01:24 PM

Right boys and girls, Im in need of $60 asap and Im offering this 1 time deal.

I have 41 heads and offering a full set of the 41 including shipping for $65
thats $1.46 for a head come on guys I cant do better than that.. the first 3 people to PM will get a set..

Heads are

Red Skull, perfect for an Iron Skull
Batroc
Norman Osborn
Comic Tony Stark
Movie Tony Stark
Maria Hill
Phil Coulson
Quake
Sharon Carter
Dum Dum Dugan, removable hat (counts as 1)
Agent Venom
Bullseye Unmasked
Daken unmasked
Hank Pym
Unmasked Magneto
Vision
Peter Parker/Ben Reilly
Chameleon
Enchantress/Songbird
Rogue
Movie Blade
Movie Yellowjacket kit with head and arms
Pyro
Tombstone
Hammerhead
Stan Lee
J Jonah Jameson
Carnage
Boomerang
Strong Guy
Avalanche
Judge Dread
Civilian set of 4 (G I Joe movie heads)
Younger Peter Parker
Ultron
Kree
SHIELD Agent

Iceman 10-10-2015 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 622994)
Isn't it possible that some of you are being a just tad too quick to put labels on Ukmu? I mean if what you're saying is true then that's one thing, but what if he's dealing with some serious personal stuff and has higher priorities right now than fulfilling trades? It just seems rash to be calling someone out without them getting to say a word for themselves. Maybe I'm playing devil's advocate here but I'd like to think that people here on the Ark are at least decent and don't necessarily deserve to be called a con artist without a shot of defense.

I will say that he has always been a flake. Never traded with him but several times I offered to send him stuff he needed (for free) and he just stopped responding. Still posted on boards that he needed the items blah blah even when someone had offered to hook him up. Very weird. Amongst other things.

Kamatayan 10-10-2015 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 622994)
Isn't it possible that some of you are being a just tad too quick to put labels on Ukmu? I mean if what you're saying is true then that's one thing, but what if he's dealing with some serious personal stuff and has higher priorities right now than fulfilling trades? It just seems rash to be calling someone out without them getting to say a word for themselves. Maybe I'm playing devil's advocate here but I'd like to think that people here on the Ark are at least decent and don't necessarily deserve to be called a con artist without a shot of defense.

I wanted to say the same thing but didn't know how to word it. It is still a high possibility that he's conning you but we really don't know what's going on with him. Anything could be happening to him but we wouldn't know.

If you really need your items then confront an admin and make sure that once he logs on you put him on the spot.

jedirulz123 10-10-2015 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamatayan (Post 623001)
If you really need your items then confront an admin and make sure that once he logs on you put him on the spot.

Those items I'd bought and paid for, of course I need them; unless he's died he's stolen them.
And every time I've tried to PM him on here his mailbox has been full. He's on MU Collectors Club too, you get an email whenever someone PMs you, so I know he's seen it.

Pilkster 10-10-2015 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 622994)
Isn't it possible that some of you are being a just tad too quick to put labels on Ukmu? I mean if what you're saying is true then that's one thing, but what if he's dealing with some serious personal stuff and has higher priorities right now than fulfilling trades? It just seems rash to be calling someone out without them getting to say a word for themselves. Maybe I'm playing devil's advocate here but I'd like to think that people here on the Ark are at least decent and don't necessarily deserve to be called a con artist without a shot of defense.

If it was 1 or 2 trades that had issues around the same time I'd say yeah there could be a issue.. The fact that there has been a few "incidents" is the issue. Second issue is that on 3 occasions it's been mentioned that he has now shipped.. Most important issue it is Jedirulez' property. He has the right to be concerned and mention it after almost 2 months of patiently waiting. The first post I started was to ask a question and opinions. I didn't name names as I knew opinions would be swayed because he is a respected member and didn't want to bash anyone.

jedirulz123 10-10-2015 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilkster (Post 623003)
I didn't name names as I knew opinions would be swayed because he is a respected member and didn't want to bash anyone.

Yeah, I'm not that polite when it comes to dicks like this.


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