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Kernel 12-03-2021 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeLikeJinx (Post 885577)
^ I recently bought the Mission Fleet Razor Crest too... that size is good enough for me IMO... just gonna use it with my 3.75" figs. I saw pics on the Rebelscum forums that someone 3D printed his own cockpit that fit the 3.75" Retro Mando and Grogo and replaced the default Mission Fleet cockpit with his own custom one... thing look good IMO... wish I could do that.

Can you pm me a link to that? I was just gonna drill some holes for the legs lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Arbor (Post 885585)
It's really not though, this is just the logical conclusion of voting with your dollars after people complained about Hasbro making ABC instead of XYZ. There's not a single thing scummy or unethical about it, you like the product, you pay for it, you get it! You don't like it? Then let it languish and die! If you made a product, wouldn't you rather ask people first and gauge interest rather than invest money and HOPE someone buys it eventually?

Paying for a toy on 12/7/21 that may or may not ship in spring of 2023 seems ridiculous and is setting a bad precedent...
Just my opinion, but like they say opinions are like a wholes, everyone?s got one and most of them stink

Quote:

Originally Posted by GizmoTron (Post 885622)
Decent maybe, but they are trying to do something a fair bit better than decent for those loyal fans who might want more than for Hasbro to just cheap out to squeeze a release out at retailer. I really can't see how that's seen by a few as just Hasbro being greedy.

Yeah I get that it will be super articulated, I just wish hasbro could find a way to do a mass retail release for a decent price. Fingers crossed this happens down the road, I just can?t justify the crowd funding and waiting that long.
I?m happy for you all that get one though

MeLikeJinx 12-03-2021 07:35 PM

^ The pics are in this thread: https://forum.rebelscum.com/threads/...1144945/page-6 ...you have to scroll down a bit, but you need to be a member to enlarge the attached pics.

TheBlueMarvel 12-03-2021 08:25 PM

I'd like a $30 Rolex.

Comedian 12-04-2021 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 885639)
I'd like a $30 Rolex.

Yes, but with that price I want 3 changeable faces, at least 12 extra links, a bezel encrusted in rare earth gems and no less than 3 different bands with their own unique packaging.

TheBlueMarvel 12-04-2021 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comedian (Post 885654)
Yes, but with that price I want 3 changeable faces, at least 12 extra links, a bezel encrusted in rare earth gems and no less than 3 different bands with their own unique packaging.

"Please" and "thank you."

Designincase 12-05-2021 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kernel (Post 885628)

Paying for a toy on 12/7/21 that may or may not ship in spring of 2023 seems ridiculous and is setting a bad precedent...
Just my opinion, but like they say opinions are like a wholes, everyone?s got one and most of them stink



Yeah I get that it will be super articulated, I just wish hasbro could find a way to do a mass retail release for a decent price. Fingers crossed this happens down the road, I just can?t justify the crowd funding and waiting that long.
I?m happy for you all that get one though


Opinion can only go so far when taking account the logistics of production. All these figures take up to a year to get produced. We are so used to a product being announced and available 2-3 months later(or even next day in some cases) but those figures were produced a while ago.

These Haslabs are taking a peak behind the curtain. It's getting ready to slaughter the cow to make the ground meat.



Well at 31 hours, I don't see this getting funding much less breaking through the tiers barring an influx of retailer totals. But hey who knows.

Kernel 12-05-2021 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeLikeJinx (Post 885630)
^ The pics are in this thread: https://forum.rebelscum.com/threads/...1144945/page-6 ...you have to scroll down a bit, but you need to be a member to enlarge the attached pics.

Cool thank you!

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 885639)
I'd like a $30 Rolex.

Ha ha I?ve gotten a knock off rolex as a present once that was about that price. Rolex isn?t a publicly traded company and doesn?t crowd fund their watches though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Designincase (Post 885715)
Opinion can only go so far when taking account the logistics of production. All these figures take up to a year to get produced. We are so used to a product being announced and available 2-3 months later(or even next day in some cases) but those figures were produced a while ago.

These Haslabs are taking a peak behind the curtain. It's getting ready to slaughter the cow to make the ground meat.



Well at 31 hours, I don't see this getting funding much less breaking through the tiers barring an influx of retailer totals. But hey who knows.

That?s my point... I know I just have an opinion instead of acting like it?s a FACT this needs to be crowdfunded. If this doesn?t get funded, hopefully hasbro finds a way to get the cost down and release something of similar value at mass retail. This way hasbro can make money and Star Wars fans and collectors can get what they want

Comedian 12-05-2021 05:01 PM

Ok see…it’s not just me. Why when I use an apostrophe why does it changes to a question mark on this site?

If I edit it after posted it stays correct.

Sataninjaku 12-05-2021 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comedian (Post 885728)
Ok see?it?s not just me. Why when I use an apostrophe why does it changes to a question mark on this site?

If I edit it after posted it stays correct.

We're having the same issue on Hisstank, and similarly, it's not all posters. Are you on an iPhone, perchance?

Harbinger 12-05-2021 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sataninjaku (Post 885729)
We're having the same issue on Hisstank, and similarly, it's not all posters. Are you on an iPhone, perchance?

I use an ipad and a pc and its doin it.

Black Arbor 12-05-2021 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comedian (Post 885728)
Ok see?it?s not just me. Why when I use an apostrophe why does it changes to a question mark on this site?

If I edit it after posted it stays correct.

I've had this problem on a lot of websites too, especially when they're a few years older.... It's really odd!

Comedian 12-05-2021 06:49 PM

I’m using an iPad Pro.

TheBlueMarvel 12-05-2021 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kernel (Post 885726)
Ha ha I?ve gotten a knock off rolex as a present once that was about that price. Rolex isn?t a publicly traded company and doesn?t crowd fund their watches though.

Are you suggesting that a publicly traded company shouldn't be allowed to use a crowdfund because of its size in comparison to a privately held one?

FYI: privately held companies can also represent enormous businesses - Bloomberg, Fidelity Investments, Koch Industries, etc.

However, I wasn't making a point about Rolex's size. What I was getting at is that HasLabs represent ready-made collector items that immediately accrue in value rather than depreciate; a 'Rolex' of toys. They're intended to be crown jewels of a collection that the consumer has the prerogative to either buy, or not. I was poking fun at the idea that some seem to like the notion of having something distinguished, but want it for bargain costs.

Which, of course, is fine, but if it doesn't fund there shouldn't be some expectation that Hasbro has to now make good on a failed/rejected project.

....it's sort of interesting that Hot Toys has carved out a niche for this at which few blink an eye.

Meh.

Comedian 12-06-2021 12:28 PM

Closing in on 6,000. 9 and a half hours to go. If anyone was waiting until the last minute…..this is it.



Edit. Just passed 6,000!

Sataninjaku 12-06-2021 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comedian (Post 885736)
I?m using an iPad Pro.

I'm not a tech guy by any means, but the posters with the odd characters over on the 'tank seem to all be Apple users. Beyond that, I don't have much more info, but at the very least, you can rest assured that the encoding issue is somewhat widespread and not a problem with your device. I've personally only seen the issue here and there, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happens at TFW or Toku, as they're likely built on the same platform.

Out of curiosity, do you have an alternative non-Apple device to post with?

Comedian 12-06-2021 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sataninjaku (Post 885791)
I'm not a tech guy by any means, but the posters with the odd characters over on the 'tank seem to all be Apple users. Beyond that, I don't have much more info, but at the very least, you can rest assured that the encoding issue is somewhat widespread and not a problem with your device. I've personally only seen the issue here and there, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happens at TFW or Toku, as they're likely built on the same platform.

Out of curiosity, do you have an alternative non-Apple device to post with?

My son has an android device and laptop. Maybe I will log in to those and see what happens.

Kernel 12-06-2021 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 885738)
Are you suggesting that a publicly traded company shouldn't be allowed to use a crowdfund because of its size in comparison to a privately held one?

FYI: privately held companies can also represent enormous businesses - Bloomberg, Fidelity Investments, Koch Industries, etc.

However, I wasn't making a point about Rolex's size. What I was getting at is that HasLabs represent ready-made collector items that immediately accrue in value rather than depreciate; a 'Rolex' of toys. They're intended to be crown jewels of a collection that the consumer has the prerogative to either buy, or not. I was poking fun at the idea that some seem to like the notion of having something distinguished, but want it for bargain costs.

Which, of course, is fine, but if it doesn't fund there shouldn't be some expectation that Hasbro has to now make good on a failed/rejected project.

....it's sort of interesting that Hot Toys has carved out a niche for this at which few blink an eye.

Meh.

Yeah I see your point. When you put it as a crown jewel thing that makes more sense. I guess there is no rule against crowd funding for any corporate entity.
Hopefully the rancor is worth it. I tend to stay away from the high end collectibles but they do look neat. I love cheap thrills lol

Designincase 12-06-2021 09:33 PM

Well at 28 minutes remaining it needs 1300 to get funded. Unless those are unaccounted for totals, I think this is a fail. Then again I refresh and it's creeping up.

Now I wonder if they might perk up the other two Haslabs if Rancor has people who were interested in the other projects.
\

edit
Finished at 8515(though it is still updating totals). If there are unaccounted for totals, it might get this funded in the morning, but right now it might be a fail. Feels like an election night.....a decade ago.

edit edit

But the website has it at 8058(and it's going down to 7682?) and officially labeled not funded.

sh002 12-06-2021 10:11 PM

The highest that I saw it at was 8537 when it was past the deadline. Now it’s at 8530 and dropping. People are cancelling.

Designincase 12-06-2021 10:21 PM

Dropped to 2700, I think Hasbro is the one cancelling orders and not backers themseleves.

So I guess this is how you kill a Haslab.

sh002 12-06-2021 10:47 PM

Stuck at 832.

Comedian 12-07-2021 04:42 AM

Man, it tried. To everyone that wanted this, I am so sorry. I hope hasbro revisits this someday with more thought. Lucas film and hasbro do not have the pulse of fans.

RamenRider 12-07-2021 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comedian (Post 885830)
To everyone that wanted this, I am so sorry.

Same. It really sucks for those who wanted this figure.

It was a terrible campaign, there's no other way to say it. High price, multiple Haslab-projects at the same time, terrible stretchgoals. A better timing, slightly lower price, and Malakili as the first stretchgoal and this could've worked.

Cyclopswc 12-07-2021 07:20 AM

Currently Hasbro Pulse's Haslab section has 4 categories:

Active Projects
Coming Soon
In Production
Past Projects

They may need to add a 5th one:
Failed Projects:
Cookie Monster
Rancor

dukefett 12-07-2021 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comedian (Post 885830)
Man, it tried. To everyone that wanted this, I am so sorry. I hope hasbro revisits this someday with more thought. Lucas film and hasbro do not have the pulse of fans.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RamenRider (Post 885831)
Same. It really sucks for those who wanted this figure.

It was a terrible campaign, there's no other way to say it. High price, multiple Haslab-projects at the same time, terrible stretchgoals. A better timing, slightly lower price, and Malakili as the first stretchgoal and this could've worked.

Yeah this is a big bummer for me, but whatever. Hasbro fucked it up. I seriously would love to see what those people are saying over there with all the R&D that went into it. If they had put some R&D into Malakili we wouldn't be here though, I really think if that was in from the get go this would've been funded.


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