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RamenRider 09-19-2022 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firmpulse (Post 907038)
I guess it's possible. However, unlikely.

It's confirmed. Mephisto will "a" tier, just not the last one.

Also confirmed the figures don’t necessarily have anything to do with Robbie.

https://i.imgur.com/wcP03Um.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/CZfBckL.jpg

TheBlueMarvel 09-19-2022 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firmpulse (Post 907038)
I guess it's possible. However, unlikely. 'Phisto has nothing to do with Reyes' origin. I don't even think Reyes has ever dealt with Mephisto.

I think Mr. Hyde is almost guaranteed. He was the major villain in the Engines of Vengeance limited series and Hasbro already has the figure. Just give him a new head and other parts to resemble his look in the series. Another easy figure would be King Blaze. Possibly some of the Vampires Reyes has fought.

Oh, I hope not, the hair and cowl could be a Hyde. But if they choose to try to fix the complaints about Hyde (which would only necessitate a new head) in this Haslab, then we might see a debacle similar to the Rancor. I hope, for the sake of getting Mephisto, they opt for characters related to the larger GR mythos, rather than exploration of characters tethered more closely to Reyes. Whatever the result, as is becoming the norm, the tiers will tell the tale.

TheBlueMarvel 09-19-2022 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RamenRider (Post 907040)
It's confirmed. Mephisto will "a" tier, just not the last one.

Also confirmed the figures don’t necessarily have anything to do with Robbie.

https://i.imgur.com/wcP03Um.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/CZfBckL.jpg

Phew...lol

Thank goodness other people do more social media socializing than I and are kind enough to put it here so I don't have to go far...

protostar8 09-19-2022 09:28 AM

At this point they need to announce all the tiers b/c that's the ONLY thing that MIGHT save this project. For the $3.15 Million dollars they are receiving for 9000 backers, they could easily just include all the dang figures from the tiers but greed...it's a hell of a thing. Even if you value each figure at $30 each, that's $150 so they are saying the car is wroth $200 being pure plastic with some LEDs. No way. A 3rd party company could pump out that same thing for under $100. I'm surprised AliExpress doesn't have one for sale already frankly haha. XD

RamenRider 09-19-2022 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 907042)
Thank goodness other people do more social media socializing than I and are kind enough to put it here so I don't have to go far...

Seriously. Social media is a freaking hellhole that I'm gladly avoiding for the rest of my life.

Thankfully there are enough people gathering useful stuff, Preternia for example is an absolute godsend.

Synth 09-19-2022 10:17 AM

I am not familiar with this version of Ghost Rider at all, space limitation is my #1 concern so I stopped buying anything that looks cool, unless it's on deep clearance or for my kids.
This Dodge sure looks awesome.

If this was a highly wanted Nostalgic product like a Knight Rider; Knight Industries Two Thousand K.I.T.T. with Michael Knight (The Hoff!) It would be a hard pass at $350.
$200 yes bought, $250 maybe...
Now on another note if it was the A-Team Van, it would be more reasonable due to size.
Same can be said about the TMNT Party Wagon from NECA at $250 being (barely) reasonable, Super7 at $500 way too overpriced.

The biggest apparent problem with this particular Ghost Rider product is the tier modes raising the price to an unreasonable level with the tier levels not being a certainty. A separate "made to order" for the action figures themselves would be a much better option. It seems like we are almost "forced" by our collecting filling gaps to buy a product such as this just to add figures we want. Sounds good on paper for Hasbro until a backing fails.

Marvel Legends continuing it's ever increasing prices across the board with less packaging and more Quality Control issues now than ever shows Hasbro's true colors.

At these prices I don't buy all the inflation stories and 9000 units is not exactly a low production for action figures as it rivals the production numbers of Masters of the Universe Classics' world wide release through mattycollector and many store exclusives numbers.

This all seem like a swan song of multiple companies producing action figures. They keep upping the price using any excuse. Most of the products are overpriced.
3D printers are continuing to be on the rise, the nostalgia generation is aging and they are well aware. There is a time limit on most of the intellectual properties we are nostalgic about.

At any rate these products are most likely "it". If you are really liking what you see and can afford these luxury prices along with having the space for display, by all means!

ShabbyBlue 09-19-2022 10:38 AM

This thing is getting backers at a very slow crawl right now and I'm starting to wonder if it will hit the early bird deadline this Friday to give people that extra figure. It's not even halfway backed yet.

firmpulse 09-19-2022 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RamenRider (Post 907040)
It's confirmed. Mephisto will "a" tier, just not the last one.

Also confirmed the figures don’t necessarily have anything to do with Robbie.

https://i.imgur.com/wcP03Um.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/CZfBckL.jpg

Dude I did not even notice that pic. I had to go back and look to see what some were talking about.

@Blue Marvel: You are right my dude! The Phist Cometh!

Designincase 09-19-2022 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShabbyBlue (Post 907050)
This thing is getting backers at a very slow crawl right now and I'm starting to wonder if it will hit the early bird deadline this Friday to give people that extra figure. It's not even halfway backed yet.

It's only monday. Some people might get paid this week(though I think that cycle is typically last week). Then the closer it gets to 9000, the more real it seems.
The HISS is an exception, not a rule.

firmpulse 09-19-2022 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Designincase (Post 907059)
It's only monday. Some people might get paid this week(though I think that cycle is typically last week). Then the closer it gets to 9000, the more real it seems.
The HISS is an exception, not a rule.

Gonna suck REALLY bad if backers don't get the Reyes figure. Hasbro may need to convert that figure to an extra Tier unlock.

Just noticed GR and Reyes make use of the new buck being utilized for Longshot.

T0ySick 09-19-2022 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synth (Post 907048)
I am not familiar with this version of Ghost Rider at all, space limitation is my #1 concern so I stopped buying anything that looks cool, unless it's on deep clearance or for my kids.
This Dodge sure looks awesome.

If this was a highly wanted Nostalgic product like a Knight Rider; Knight Industries Two Thousand K.I.T.T. with Michael Knight (The Hoff!) It would be a hard pass at $350.
$200 yes bought, $250 maybe...
Now on another note if it was the A-Team Van, it would be more reasonable due to size.
Same can be said about the TMNT Party Wagon from NECA at $250 being (barely) reasonable, Super7 at $500 way too overpriced.

The biggest apparent problem with this particular Ghost Rider product is the tier modes raising the price to an unreasonable level with the tier levels not being a certainty. A separate "made to order" for the action figures themselves would be a much better option. It seems like we are almost "forced" by our collecting filling gaps to buy a product such as this just to add figures we want. Sounds good on paper for Hasbro until a backing fails.

Marvel Legends continuing it's ever increasing prices across the board with less packaging and more Quality Control issues now than ever shows Hasbro's true colors.

At these prices I don't buy all the inflation stories and 9000 units is not exactly a low production for action figures as it rivals the production numbers of Masters of the Universe Classics' world wide release through mattycollector and many store exclusives numbers.

This all seem like a swan song of multiple companies producing action figures. They keep upping the price using any excuse. Most of the products are overpriced.
3D printers are continuing to be on the rise, the nostalgia generation is aging and they are well aware. There is a time limit on most of the intellectual properties we are nostalgic about.

At any rate these products are most likely "it". If you are really liking what you see and can afford these luxury prices along with having the space for display, by all means!

FIRST OFF I hate most of what you said...WHY??
Becuase it hurts my truth spot..LOL..

We all know the truth hurts.

GREAT POST!

T0ySick 09-19-2022 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firmpulse (Post 907060)
Gonna suck REALLY bad if backers don't get the Reyes figure. Hasbro may need to convert that figure to an extra Tier unlock.

Just noticed GR and Reyes make use of the new buck being utilized for Longshot.

SHHH IT'S ALL ORIGINAL...they would never.."whips neck around and walks away.."

AFU 09-19-2022 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GizmoTron (Post 906997)
To be fair, the G.I.Joe fans are thirsty for some 6" vehicles, and the HISS could be army built. And people still dissected and debated the cost. So compared to that, Robbie and his car were always going to face an uphill battle.

Great statement! That why I think the GR Project is going to be something more! I think the ML team is envious of the HISS Tank team’s popularity, which I did get one, and they are gunning for the popularity and the successful campaign of the HISS Tank…

Note: The GR project has to do something special, because the HiSS Tank was something special, and imo like your, is going to be something hard to top.

MeLikeJinx 09-19-2022 04:35 PM

I think Joe and SW fans are used to buying vehicles though... like it is just a part of their collecting mentality for that particular brand of toys... for Marvel figures it is not... with the lone exceptions of Ghost Rider's bike and Xavier's wheelchair/hoverchair of course. Like I don't even think Punisher's van counts as a must have accessory to anyone displaying their Punisher fig... I don't think there is even a Batmobile equivalent in Marvel.

En Sabah Nerd 09-19-2022 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeLikeJinx (Post 907073)
I don't think there is even a Batmobile equivalent in Marvel.

Obviously it's this
https://live.staticflickr.com/1810/4...c5cb1151_o.jpg

Harbinger 09-19-2022 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 907074)
Obviously it's this
https://live.staticflickr.com/1810/4...c5cb1151_o.jpg

Look like speed buggys slow-witted cousin.

snake5289 09-19-2022 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeLikeJinx (Post 907073)
I don't think there is even a Batmobile equivalent in Marvel.

https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qi...1392aaaedb5-lq
It's obviously the Thanoscopter.

TheBlueMarvel 09-19-2022 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firmpulse (Post 907060)
Gonna suck REALLY bad if backers don't get the Reyes figure. Hasbro may need to convert that figure to an extra Tier unlock.

Just noticed GR and Reyes make use of the new buck being utilized for Longshot.

Nice eye. I wouldn't be surprised if Mephisto shared parts with Knull. In particular, the arms and upper legs/thighs.

GizmoTron 09-19-2022 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by protostar8 (Post 907045)
At this point they need to announce all the tiers b/c that's the ONLY thing that MIGHT save this project. For the $3.15 Million dollars they are receiving for 9000 backers, they could easily just include all the dang figures from the tiers but greed...it's a hell of a thing. Even if you value each figure at $30 each, that's $150 so they are saying the car is wroth $200 being pure plastic with some LEDs. No way. A 3rd party company could pump out that same thing for under $100. I'm surprised AliExpress doesn't have one for sale already frankly haha. XD

They already have about half of what they need with still like 42 days left, I don't think the project needs saving.

CosmicCreature 09-19-2022 09:28 PM

Ive been begging for a Mephisto figure for years and now Hasbro sticks it with expensive haslab that I cant afford or have any interest in .Man the thought of this is making me so bitter . Why did hasbro have stick such high demand essential character in this haslab. not everyone can afford these expensive projects. I just feel manipulated into buying this haslab just so I get my mephisto finally.

RamenRider 09-19-2022 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CosmicCreature (Post 907081)
Why did hasbro have stick such high demand essential character in this haslab.

Well...

Quote:

Originally Posted by CosmicCreature (Post 907081)
I just feel manipulated into buying this haslab just so I get my mephisto finally.

That's why.

Boogieman4hire 09-20-2022 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 907032)
^You don’t have rationalize your decision to support the consensus of this community, dude. I know that we humans flock together and often succumb to the pressures to align with popularized notions, concepts, and fads, but fuck what anyone else thinks. If you can afford yourself this luxury (and make no mistake it’s ALL luxury; from $20 figures to Haslabs) and want it, there’s no shame in that.

Rest assured that Mephisto is going to be a tier. The character was opined about being part of this Haslab since the first couple of comments on this thread and he was teased in the promotional video. I’ve yet to see any figures not associated with Haslabs leaked during promotional media for the projects.

There’s nothing wrong with supporting this Haslab despite the initial reactions on social media. The complaints of corporate greed can be true and the Haslab can also be worth it (to enough fans) simultaneously. Exclusive tiers of Mephisto, Blackheart and Daimon Hellstrom will make this well worth my investment. And to boot, despite some of the druthers people have mentioned, the Hell Charger looks exactly as it should and the effects are well executed. I’d say leave Ketch out of the tiers to satisfy fans wanting the 90s version and plug the Marvel-Occult holes bible thumpers would be up upset about showing up at retail.

The fund is almost halfway there, we’ll see what happens.

Yeah I could give a shit. I don't care that other people think this sucks and I don't think the base offering is worth that price tag. But in the end backing is how we change that right?
It's kind of like this one Reddit story I heard about a guy who's out at a bar with some d**khead. The d**khead is just obnoxiously chastising the main guy all night when they see an attractive woman across the bar. Wanting to humiliate him "Richard" bets the guy $50 that he doesn't have the balls to go over there and get that lady's number. Well he goes over there and tells the woman "Hey this moron over here just bet me 50 bucks I couldn't get your number. Write down whatever you want on this napkin and we'll split the winnings." In the end that guy looked like an idiot and they both got $25 for nothing. FYI I'm not alluding to the douchebag being anyone in this. What I'm saying is play the game and we can all win out.

firmpulse 09-20-2022 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snake5289 (Post 907076)
https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qi...1392aaaedb5-lq
It's obviously the Thanoscopter.

Obviously :rolleyes::D (That's GREAT)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel (Post 907078)
Nice eye. I wouldn't be surprised if Mephisto shared parts with Knull. In particular, the arms and upper legs/thighs.

Is he usually shown to be that tall? I guess he can be whatever height he wants to be but, how do most fans perceive him?

Those questions asked I really really like Knull. He's great in hand. So, if 'Phist did utilize parts of that it could be a very nice figure.

Cyclopswc 09-20-2022 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeLikeJinx (Post 907073)
I don't think there is even a Batmobile equivalent in Marvel.

Not exactly, but since Iron Man is Marvel's Batman (billionaire with toys), so technically Iron Man's suits are Batman's Batmobiles. With all these fancy Batsuits and Batmobiles and Batplanes, Bruce Wayne hasn't figured out how to make a Batsuit that actually flies (FLY, not glide down a building). I guess he's lacking a miniature ARC reactor.

That said, the Fantasticar comes close. I think HasLab would have more supporter if it's a 4 seat Fantasticar. Pretty much everyone's got some version of the Fantastic Four by now that could use a car.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/P1MAA...Jb/s-l1600.jpg

Back to Ghost Rider, they already made Johnny Blaze and his cycle. I imagine Danny Ketch and his cycle wouldn't need to be a HasLab, it would sell enough to be a mass market item. Hey, they made GIJoe Breaker with RAM cycle for $40. Marvel will probably mark it up to $100 for Danny and his cycle, but it's doable. So the only Ghost Rider whose vehicle would need a HasLab would be Robbie Reyes. It make sense. For those that could afford it, a complete display with all 3 Ghost Riders and their vehicles (throw in the Punisher Ghost Rider too) in the future will be glorious.

T0ySick 09-20-2022 08:54 AM

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/P1MAA...Jb/s-l1600.jpg

Wow thats two times bigger than the ghost rider power wheel..must have cost at least $500.00 right?
That's seems fair right?

Even with a high estimate of a $74.99 retail for this in 2005 release it would still, with inflation, cost about $115 in 2022 (real inflation, not price gouge toy market inflation). Pretending Toybiz was still a viable company.

But if it was Hasyourdough this would be haslabbed at $500 and come with a "new" sculpted Mr fantastic. With an early bird unlock of screw you!


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