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Exodus 12-08-2016 11:00 PM

Spider-Man: Homecoming
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9DwoQ7HWvI

Exodus 12-08-2016 11:01 PM

I don't get why when they keep rebooting Spider-Man into a HS kid. For pete's sake (no pun intended) why they don't just "adult" him up and go from there?

snake5289 12-08-2016 11:12 PM

Couldn't agree more. It's only the 3rd time he's a highschool kid again.

Keaton as Vulture looks awesome though.

Dr Kain 12-08-2016 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exodus (Post 688447)
I posted the Spider-Man:Homecoming trailer here, and posted my one issue on it :p
http://www.toyark.com/spider-man-hom...75/#post688445

THAT WAS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!

Not sure who the friend was, but I'm okay with that. Vulture looks spectacular. The web wings look amazing. I loved the scene with the bank robbery and the masks. The stuff with Tony was hilarious. They didn't give too much away, yet, they gave enough to wet your appetite. OH HELL YEAH!!! THIS MOVIE IS GOING TO BE SUPERIOR TO EVERY OTHER SPIDER-MAN MOVIE EVER!!!!! It's going to be the ultimate Spider-Man movie!!! I've been caught in this web of Spider-Man.

Jeddostotle7 12-08-2016 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 688451)
Because they are doing the high school version right his time. Plus, the Tobey version was a high schooler for like 40 minutes despite him not even looking anything like a high schooler. Andrew was way too cool to be a high school kid. Tom looks AND acts like a high schooler.

Not sure who the friend was, but I'm okay with that. Vulture looks spectacular. The web wings look amazing. I loved the scene with the bank robbery and the masks. The stuff with Tony was hilarious. They didn't give too much away, yet, they gave enough to wet your appetite. OH HELL YEAH!!! THIS MOVIE IS GOING TO BE SUPERIOR TO EVERY OTHER SPIDER-MAN MOVIE EVER!!!!! It's going to be the ultimate Spider-Man movie!!! I've been caught in this web of Spider-Man.

The friend is Ned Leeds, who in the comics is a reporter at the Daily Bugle, and is one of many people to be forced by Roderick Kingsley into the role of Hobgoblin.

Trivial Psychic 12-09-2016 12:04 AM

I thought the trailer was really weak. Less high school hijinks (most of which wasn't particularly fun or funny,) and more Spider-Man please. I would like to watch a Spider-Man film when this finally hits, not a PG version of Super Bad.

Vulture did look great though, as was the cameo of an unmasked Shocker. Spidey holding the ship together looked a little too much like the train scene from Spidey 2 though, and I ended up checking out from there.

It's a teaser...I get it...but there have been better teasers from other films as of late that actually had me excited. This one did nothing for me, but I'll hold judgement for when the film hits. After all, ASM2 looked absolutely amazing when the first teaser hit, and it was an absolute trainwreck.

snake5289 12-09-2016 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic (Post 688453)
I thought the trailer was really weak. Less high school hijinks (most of which wasn't particularly fun or funny,) and more Spider-Man please. I would like to watch a Spider-Man film when this finally hits, not a PG version of Super Bad.

Vulture did look great though, as was the cameo of an unmasked Shocker. Spidey holding the ship together looked a little too much like the train scene from Spidey 2 though, and I ended up checking out from there.

It's a teaser...I get it...but there have been better teasers from other films as of late that actually had me excited. This one did nothing for me, but I'll hold judgement for when the film hits. After all, ASM2 looked absolutely amazing when the first teaser hit, and it was an absolute trainwreck.

This is pretty much exactly how I felt. Except I liked ASM2 just fine.

snake5289 12-09-2016 01:39 AM

Yeah that kid was not Ned in any way. Who the hell made that call?

warmachine6 12-09-2016 01:42 AM

spider-man homecoming ...

well the high school thing i hope is short

Iron man and Spider-man relationship development, awesome! Though im going to say it now, The Iron man team-up can be good or bad i.e iron man should Fail , giving spidey the chance to succeed and prove himself...

I nearly forgot about star wars till that kid destroyed the deathstar... serious Disney we get the message you own two major franchises... -.-

Vulture your look better be temporary , not a fan of the mask, be nice to see him in the day rather than darkened areas..

Other than those few gripes i am looking forward to it, will it be the best marvel film ?

Erm GOTG Vol.2 is something i am more excited for, than homecoming...

snake5289 12-09-2016 02:00 AM

Everything MCU related falls behind Ant-Man and the Wasp for me.

Phantomcrow 12-09-2016 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warmachine6 (Post 688457)
spider-man homecoming ...


I nearly forgot about star wars till that kid destroyed the deathstar... serious Disney we get the message you own two major franchises... -.-

Vulture your look better be temporary , not a fan of the mask, be nice to see him in the day rather than darkened areas..

I think the kid with peter is supposed to be Ganke from the Ultimate Spiderman comics. He was the best friend of Miles Morales and it seems like he got transferred to Peter now. As for Vulture, I feel like the helmet will be worn until they reveal that it is Batman, I mean Keaton. I like the outfit for Vulture. I figured it would be tech based. When they were going to build to the Sinister 6 in ASM2, Vulture was going to be that way.

warmachine6 12-09-2016 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantomcrow (Post 688459)
I think the kid with peter is supposed to be Ganke from the Ultimate Spiderman comics. He was the best friend of Miles Morales and it seems like he got transferred to Peter now. As for Vulture, I feel like the helmet will be worn until they reveal that it is Batman, I mean Keaton. I like the outfit for Vulture. I figured it would be tech based. When they were going to build to the Sinister 6 in ASM2, Vulture was going to be that way.

maybe sony and marvel now have a deal in which we might see the sinister six on the big screen then, it was their go to for ASM2 well hinting it, wonder what roster of the sinister 6 we shall get. I would like to see Dr.Ock again. Bigger Question is how many spider-man films are we going to get

Jeddostotle7 12-09-2016 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantomcrow (Post 688459)
I think the kid with peter is supposed to be Ganke from the Ultimate Spiderman comics. He was the best friend of Miles Morales and it seems like he got transferred to Peter now. As for Vulture, I feel like the helmet will be worn until they reveal that it is Batman, I mean Keaton. I like the outfit for Vulture. I figured it would be tech based. When they were going to build to the Sinister 6 in ASM2, Vulture was going to be that way.

The friend of Peter has been confirmed to be Ned Leeds for at least months now.

Harbinger 12-09-2016 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic (Post 688453)
I thought the trailer was really weak. Less high school hijinks (most of which wasn't particularly fun or funny,) and more Spider-Man please. I would like to watch a Spider-Man film when this finally hits, not a PG version of Super Bad.

Vulture did look great though, as was the cameo of an unmasked Shocker. Spidey holding the ship together looked a little too much like the train scene from Spidey 2 though, and I ended up checking out from there.

It's a teaser...I get it...but there have been better teasers from other films as of late that actually had me excited. This one did nothing for me, but I'll hold judgement for when the film hits. After all, ASM2 looked absolutely amazing when the first teaser hit, and it was an absolute trainwreck.

Id like to see a spiderman movie where hes ACTUALLY a man.......not spider tween. I mean whats with this bs about him always being a kid ( i get they wanna capture kiddies but thats what toon are for ). At least raimis 2nd and 3rd ( despite the third sufferimg from trilogy over stuffing syndrome and the goofy strut walk and sky ninja not goblin ) had him growing up not perpetually stuck in high school, nor race/gender swapping characters. S2 will reign besides deadpool and cap2 as my fave superhero movie, at least until grifter or maybe the darkness get a movie. ;)

Boy Blunder 12-09-2016 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitelife (Post 688462)
Id like to see a spiderman movie where hes ACTUALLY a man.......not spider tween. I mean whats with this bs about him always being a kid ( i get they wanna capture kiddies but thats what toon are for ).

...are you just not familiar with how Spidey got his start in the comics? Because the whole high school thing is, well, kind of a HUGE part of his character and story. Like, a defining part.

Trivial Psychic 12-09-2016 09:05 AM

Just saw the international trailer for Homecoming. It is way better than the one that debuted stateside, as it showcases a bit more Spidey and less awkward high school-ness (and still a bit too much RDJ.) Still not completely sold though.

I guess Bokeem Woodbine really is the Shocker. I know that it was the rumor for months now, but then I saw a white dude with a beard wearing the Shocker's jacket in the trailer and ended up assuming Woodbine was actually playing another role.

Harbinger 12-09-2016 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boy Blunder (Post 688469)
...are you just not familiar with how Spidey got his start in the comics? Because the whole high school thing is, well, kind of a HUGE part of his character and story. Like, a defining part.

No i am but its time to move past that. Its like everytime theres a new spider series its always him being a kid or something. I say use that in an opening sequence and brief narration then get in to him being an adult...or at least 22 in college. Move away from the tween kid spider and into him being spider MAN.

Or better yet make a spideman 2099 movie with his original costume...not that gaudy wreck that hes sporting now.

Boy Blunder 12-09-2016 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitelife (Post 688486)
No i am but its time to move past that. Its like everytime theres a new spider series its always him being a kid or something. I say use that in an opening sequence and brief narration then get in to him being an adult...or at least 22 in college. Move away from the tween kid spider and into him being spider MAN.

Or better yet make a spideman 2099 movie with his originsl costume...not that gaudy wreck that hes sporting now.

Thing is, he's being introduced to a new audience (yes, I know ASM wasn't that long ago, but in terms of making movies, it might as well have been a lifetime ago), so you want to introduce him at an early enough point to get invested in him as a character and watch him grow up, watch his trials and tribulations. Besides, not only are they foregoing the overdone origin story, but for the first time, we're actually getting a Spidey who's actually young enough for it all to be realistic (because who can forget the almost-30 Tobey Maguire playing a high school student?). You give the younger fans someone they can relate to better, because he's close to their age, while also making it believable that this kid will be having the problems that Peter had faced in his early superhero career and social life.

Being totally honest with you, though, I still wish they'd just gone for Miles in the first place. I'm glad for all the changes here, but I am so friggin' done with Peter as a character. He bores the crap out of me. I find pretty much every other Spider to be more interesting than him. Throwing Miles in as the lead Spidey in the MCU would have been a risky gamble, but I think he would have made a better impression, and have a wider appeal - after all, even with the changes made to update him, Peter's still a product of the 1960s, when academically-inclined, glasses-wearing "nerds" were called "Poindexter" and stuffed into lockers by football players.

Dr Kain 12-09-2016 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic (Post 688475)
Just saw the international trailer for Homecoming. It is way better than the one that debuted stateside, as it showcases a bit more Spidey and less awkward high school-ness (and still a bit too much RDJ.) Still not completely sold though.

But the awkward high school-ness is part of Peter's character. That was the whole point of Stan and Steve's comics. Hell, there is one issue that takes place entirely in the school.

Quote:

Originally Posted by warmachine6 (Post 688487)
just found this
Exclusive First Look at Hasbro's Spider-Man: Homecoming Vulture Figure - CBR

Not a huge fan of the design.. also the wing parts are BAF items etc

I like the design, I would just rather have a comic Vulture figure, especially since he could use Darkhawk's wings. Also not a fan of the idea of the wings being BAF parts. That's dumb. How about giving us Kingpin for the BAF instead?

Trivial Psychic 12-09-2016 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 688494)
But the awkward high school-ness is part of Peter's character. That was the whole point of Stan and Steve's comics. Hell, there is one issue that takes place entirely in the school.

I'm not disagreeing with this notion as the return to high school was one of the reasons that I enjoyed reading Ultimate Spider-Man so much when the comic series initially debuted and had its very strong run during its first two or three years. However a lot of what makes Spider-Man so popular also stems from the fact that he is an every man, a guy who struggles with paying his rent, a boss he cannot stand, and relationships with friends and lovers that he cares about, often get in the way of crime-fighting duties.

Some of Peter's best stories come from his high school years, but many of them (along with his villians) also come out of his adult life as well. For example, one of the characters that I have always wanted to see interact with Spidey on the big screen has been Black Cat, due to the sexual tension between the two as well as the strain it puts on Peter's relationship with Mary Jane, but we will never see that if we keep going back to high school.

We have already had 5 Spider-Man films so far, with two of them (3 if you count the brief amount of time they were in school in Amazing Spider-Man 2) and it would be nice to see Peter get on with his adult life already. High school was cool, but the best is still yet to come.

Trivial Psychic 12-09-2016 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim (Post 688541)
I am almost certain that im in the minority here but i kinda Like the Vulture as what Dr.Kain i would rather have a Comic Style vulture over this one but Hell i am probably going to get him. Isn't Shocker in this movie also?

Shocker appears in the international trailer for Homecoming.

https://youtu.be/YPUASeS6qc0

Exodus 12-12-2016 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitelife (Post 688462)
Id like to see a spiderman movie where hes ACTUALLY a man.......not spider tween. I mean whats with this bs about him always being a kid ( i get they wanna capture kiddies but thats what toon are for ). At least raimis 2nd and 3rd ( despite the third sufferimg from trilogy over stuffing syndrome and the goofy strut walk and sky ninja not goblin ) had him growing up not perpetually stuck in high school, nor race/gender swapping characters. S2 will reign besides deadpool and cap2 as my fave superhero movie, at least until grifter or maybe the darkness get a movie. ;)

Totally agree with you there!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boy Blunder (Post 688469)
...are you just not familiar with how Spidey got his start in the comics? Because the whole high school thing is, well, kind of a HUGE part of his character and story. Like, a defining part.

Which is I understand and he actually still has that in his persona a bit too in the comics, that's where the jokes come from...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitelife (Post 688486)
No i am but its time to move past that. Its like everytime theres a new spider series its always him being a kid or something. I say use that in an opening sequence and brief narration then get in to him being an adult...or at least 22 in college. Move away from the tween kid spider and into him being spider MAN.

Or better yet make a spideman 2099 movie with his original costume...not that gaudy wreck that hes sporting now.

And agree with yet again...let's move on people and see an adult Peter Parker take on the world!

The other problem with HS Spidey/Peter is that it doesn't really mesh well with the Avengers because he's too young...A college Spidey would have been ok.

Early Cuyler 01-01-2017 04:41 PM

This film better have plenty of Marisa Tomei.

Im ok with the reboot as it ties in with the MCU. Im more than ready for FOX to release their stranglehold on F4 and X-men. Viktor Von has not been done justice in my opinion.

Tim 01-04-2017 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Early Cuyler (Post 690946)
This film better have plenty of Marisa Tomei.

Im ok with the reboot as it ties in with the MCU. Im more than ready for FOX to release their stranglehold on F4 and X-men. Viktor Von has not been done justice in my opinion.

HAHAHAHAHA is this Nitelife's second account he is also Very Fond of Her lol

Weapon X 03-28-2017 09:46 AM

Spider-Man Homecoming
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiTECkLZ8HM

Well, now I want a Marvel Legends Ned figure with alternate masked head and Lego Millennium Falcon accessory. :p


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