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Mastersteef 01-17-2012 10:07 AM

R-Rated Deadpool movie coming our way?
 
So I read this article this morning from Big Shiny Robot, where they talk about how at a recent Con' in Arizona Rob Liefeld hinted that he may have possibly seen 8 minutes of test footage from a live-action deadpool movie.

Here's a link to the article:
Big Shiny Robot - Has Rob Liefeld Seen 8 Minutes of Test Footage for an R-Rated Deadpool Film?

So fellow 'Arkers and fans of Deadpool, what are your thoughts?

I personally love what Liefield is describing here, and I would love to see this done right. And it makes me even happier that 'Pool is in full costume in the footage, and I would hope that he keeps it on for the entirety of the film instead of catching a case of the "take off my mask so I can emote-itis" that so many superheros seem to be stricken with these days....

behindthemask 01-17-2012 10:11 AM

I'd be down for it, 1 it's a character not many kids are familiar with, so an R rated movie makes sense, the content can be darker, edgier and encompass more violence, swearing, blood and guts and nudity. Not sure if they'd have Ryan Renolds back for the role like they did with Hugh Jackman with Wolverine. I defiantly need him in full costume, and not some futuristic design, keep it simple and classic, red and black. I think if the movie did well they could do other character movies and then lead up to an x-force movie.

trebleshot 01-17-2012 10:24 AM

I'd be really happy if it were true. But considering it's a Marvel movie, I doubt they will do an R-rated version. R-rated movies are harder to distribute and reduce potential profits since less people will see it in the theater. Making it PG-13 gives it the widest possible audience and the largest chance for success.

Besides, Deadpool doesn't really need the R-rating to be good, unlike say Punisher.

warmachine6 01-17-2012 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trebleshot (Post 230351)
I'd be really happy if it were true. But considering it's a Marvel movie, I doubt they will do an R-rated version. R-rated movies are harder to distribute and reduce potential profits since less people will see it in the theater. Making it PG-13 gives it the widest possible audience and the largest chance for success.

Besides, Deadpool doesn't really need the R-rating to be good, unlike say Punisher.

blade was also an r-rated film i think

warmachine6 01-17-2012 10:38 AM

yh, excited and wouldnt be suprised if it was an r-rated film and guys guess what ?....... think of the figures you could get with him from his film and weps and all awsome accessories ! i hope they release it or start production anytime (prefebably before i die) :)
so i would prefer it as an r-rated yh i undertsand trebleshot's point , but they not make it as good , and nowa days kids like 10+ or under's parnets watch 18's , 15's etc ( inculding games) so why not ? c'mon marvel get on with it already !!!! :P

webz 01-17-2012 10:43 AM

I would LOVE for a Deadpool movie to be similar to "Punisher: War Zone", but with a tiny hint of "The Mask" tossed in (some 4th wall comments, an occasional battle cry of "Chimichangas!", etc). Ryan Reynolds is perfect for the character, but his ability to drive an action movie is somewhat questionable since he was, imho, the weakest part of Green Lantern. Sadly tho, comedians generally do not have the build to be a convincing soldier... I REALLY don't wanna see Ricky Gervais in spandex. Carrottop is a steroid hulk, but is NOT funny. Max Greenfield could work for Deadpool too...

Exodus 01-17-2012 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webz (Post 230359)
I would LOVE for a Deadpool movie to be similar to "Punisher: War Zone", but with a tiny hint of "The Mask" tossed in (some 4th wall comments, an occasional battle cry of "Chimichangas!", etc). Ryan Reynolds is perfect for the character, but his ability to drive an action movie is somewhat questionable since he was, imho, the weakest part of Green Lantern. Sadly tho, comedians generally do not have the build to be a convincing soldier... I REALLY don't wanna see Ricky Gervais in spandex. Carrottop is a steroid hulk, but is NOT funny. Max Greenfield could work for Deadpool too...

Heck ya having an X-Force movie R rated would be awesome! :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by behindthemask (Post 230346)
I'd be down for it, 1 it's a character not many kids are familiar with, so an R rated movie makes sense, the content can be darker, edgier and encompass more violence, swearing, blood and guts and nudity. Not sure if they'd have Ryan Renolds back for the role like they did with Hugh Jackman with Wolverine. I defiantly need him in full costume, and not some futuristic design, keep it simple and classic, red and black. I think if the movie did well they could do other character movies and then lead up to an x-force movie.

Ryan Reynolds was great as Deadpool because the character was kind of like him, smart ass and witty, he sucked in Green Lantern cause that's now how GL is in the comics, I don't think...

webz 01-17-2012 11:13 AM

Deadpool 2: X-Force

Deadpool - Ryan Reynolds
Cable - Stephen Lang
Domino - Angelina Jolie
Apocalypse - Arnold Vosloo
Boomer - Abigail Breslin
Jack McBrayer - Cannonball
Tyler Christopher - Warpath
Steve Buscemi - Caliban

brianregan09 01-17-2012 11:16 AM

funny though i bet he was talking out his asshole

webz 01-17-2012 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exodus (Post 230373)
Ryan Reynolds was great as Deadpool because the character was kind of like him, smart ass and witty, he sucked in Green Lantern cause that's now how GL is in the comics, I don't think...

I read the Green Lantern in the late 80's ... he was my 2nd favorite DC character (after Batman, of course). LOVED Sinestro, Kilowag, but the Reynolds just didn't have the cojones to come across as having the will power to control the ring. He looked great, just came across as silly.

cainraw 01-17-2012 11:21 AM

I would take anything Rob Liefeld has to say with a grain of salt, anyone looking for an amazing article on the guy and his talent as an artist, here you go...

The 40 Worst Rob Liefeld Drawings: CASUALTY OF WAR!! - Progressive Boink

Greenskar 01-17-2012 11:31 AM

As was pointed out, the first two Blade films performed well for an R- rated film (we can all pretend the third film never happened, its ok).

I have to disagree with trebleshot on this one. Deadpool needs to be developed for a more mature target audience. He is not a kid friendly character like Wolverine has become, based on the material I read. Any attempt to make him kid friendly will only ruin the character development IMO.

He does not have the mainstream appeal of a mass audience in film that a Batman, Iron Man, Superman, Spiderman or X-men can generate. He should receive about the same amount of praise as Kick ass did and hopefully be as successful.

Marvel Studios is who said they themselves will not be developing any more R-rated films of their characters after the box office flop in terms of numbers that was Punisher War Zone. However, since its my understanding that Fox would be behind this, Rated R is a good possibility.

While Trebleshot is right in that it doesn't need to be rated R to be successful, it does create more options with the content.

Exodus 01-17-2012 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webz (Post 230375)
Deadpool 2: X-Force

Deadpool - Ryan Reynolds
Cable - Stephen Lang
Domino - Angelina Jolie
Apocalypse - Arnold Vosloo
Boomer - Abigail Breslin
Jack McBrayer - Cannonball
Tyler Christopher - Warpath
Steve Buscemi - Caliban

Don't forget X-23!!! Although I guess it depends what X-Force team you want...they could mix it up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenskar (Post 230388)
As was pointed out, the first two Blade films performed well for an R- rated film (we can all pretend the third film never happened, its ok).

I have to disagree with trebleshot on this one. Deadpool needs to be developed for a more mature target audience. He is not a kid friendly character like Wolverine has become, based on the material I read. Any attempt to make him kid friendly will only ruin the character development IMO.

He does not have the mainstream appeal of a mass audience in film that a Batman, Iron Man, Superman, Spiderman or X-men can generate. He should receive about the same amount of praise as Kick ass did and hopefully be as successful.

Marvel Studios is who said they themselves will not be developing any more R-rated films of their characters after the box office flop in terms of numbers that was Punisher War Zone. However, since its my understanding that Fox would be behind this, Rated R is a good possibility.

While Trebleshot is right in that it doesn't need to be rated R to be successful, it does create more options with the content.

Punisher kind of sucked because there wasn't much of a story behind it, the first one wasn't too bad, but War Zone was crazy intense, although that is the Punisher after all...

webz 01-17-2012 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exodus (Post 230393)
Don't forget X-23!!! Although I guess it depends what X-Force team you want...they could mix it up.

I want NOTHING to do with Wolverine anymore, after Origins. Don't know anything about x-23 other than her appearance in the cartoon and the MvC3 video game, I understand she's a clone, but that's it... so... for your enjoyment... Mila Kunis for X-23...Me, I prefer to keep to the 80's and 90's team. Sure, Fox will butcher it like they have every other X-Men project, but hey, this is all fantasy land.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Exodus (Post 230393)
Punisher kind of sucked because there wasn't much of a story behind it, the first one wasn't too bad, but War Zone was crazy intense, although that is the Punisher after all...

Thomas Jane's Punisher had the better story, and villains, and acting, but War Zone had better action, and was closer to the stupidity often found in a Punisher comic (this coming from a fan of the character, too!)... Punisher is a difficult character to make a movie for. He's not approachable like Capt America, Spider-Man, etc, who have an internal compass. Punisher is just a relentless killing machine. Great for a 32 page picture book... not quite for a 90min flick.

Exodus 01-17-2012 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webz (Post 230409)
I want NOTHING to do with Wolverine anymore, after Origins. Don't know anything about x-23 other than her appearance in the cartoon and the MvC3 video game, I understand she's a clone, but that's it... so... for your enjoyment... Mila Kunis for X-23...Me, I prefer to keep to the 80's and 90's team. Sure, Fox will butcher it like they have every other X-Men project, but hey, this is all fantasy land.

Ha ha true on the movie and yes Mila Kunis would play a great X-23...

Quote:

Originally Posted by webz (Post 230409)
Thomas Jane's Punisher had the better story, and villains, and acting, but War Zone had better action, and was closer to the stupidity often found in a Punisher comic (this coming from a fan of the character, too!)... Punisher is a difficult character to make a movie for. He's not approachable like Capt America, Spider-Man, etc, who have an internal compass. Punisher is just a relentless killing machine. Great for a 32 page picture book... not quite for a 90min flick.

Yes totally agree with you on that, both movies were quite entertaining. I don't ever try to compare the movie to the comics any more because I think we all know the stories can't be exact. But the fact that they're "come to life" is good enough for me.

trebleshot 01-17-2012 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warmachine6 (Post 230355)
blade was also an r-rated film i think

Yes it was. So were the two sequels. It still could have been done as a PG-13 and still have been good. But I'm glad it wasn't, all the same.

As I said, I would love for the Deadpool movie to be R-rated and I'll be the first one to admit I was wrong if it comes to pass. I will also be the one jumping for joy in line for opening night. It would open so many doors storywise. The problem I'm having right now is that I just have very little faith that Fox and Marvel will do it.

I hope they keep Reynolds either way. IMHO, he's a perfect fit for the character and his portrayal of Wade Wilson is one of the few good things about XMO:W.

Greenskar 01-17-2012 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trebleshot (Post 230422)
Yes it was. So were the two sequels. It still could have been done as a PG-13 and still have been good. But I'm glad it wasn't, all the same.

As I said, I would love for the Deadpool movie to be R-rated and I'll be the first one to admit I was wrong if it comes to pass. I will also be the one jumping for joy in line for opening night. It would open so many doors storywise. The problem I'm having right now is that I just have very little faith that Fox and Marvel will do it.

I hope they keep Reynolds either way. IMHO, he's a perfect fit for the character and his portrayal of Wade Wilson is one of the few good things about XMO:W.

I just have zero faith in fox. I wish they didn't have license rights to any of Marcel's characters anymore...but that's just my opinion.

Exodus 01-17-2012 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenskar (Post 230428)
I just have zero faith in fox. I wish they didn't have license rights to any of Marcel's characters anymore...but that's just my opinion.

I wonder how long they have the license for? If and when it expires, I'm betting Disney would love to keep all the Movie rights for themselves and produce/make them.

FancyPants 01-17-2012 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warmachine6 (Post 230355)
blade was also an r-rated film i think

and the horrendous sequels that follow

behindthemask 01-17-2012 04:39 PM

Xmen first class, wasn't as bad as I thought, not to say I have a ton of faith in Fox either, but they didn't butcher the film as bas I thought they would of. Blade and Punisher are in the same league as Deadpool, a ruthless mercenarior, unapproachable by the public or law enforcement for that matter, all 3 are renegades , all 3 killing machine, foul mouthed and "rude/crude" and every 2 feet they're killing or stabbing something, so the R rating makes perfect sense to me.

yourfacehere 01-17-2012 04:58 PM

I've heard the folks who wrote zombie land are working on it... if so, fantastic.

NoodleChow 01-17-2012 05:13 PM

if that's true, i am so on board.

DogFashionDisco 01-17-2012 07:00 PM

Dude, Blade 2 rocked. Now back on topic - This movie can't happen with Ryan Reynolds in the lead. The film industry took a huge hit with Green Lantern and I highly doubt those greedy bastards are going to play the Ryan Reynolds card again for another character, although Fox might just because they're so bad at making films.

webz 01-17-2012 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by behindthemask (Post 230522)
Xmen first class, wasn't as bad as I thought, not to say I have a ton of faith in Fox either, but they didn't butcher the film as bas I thought they would of. Blade and Punisher are in the same league as Deadpool, a ruthless mercenarior, unapproachable by the public or law enforcement for that matter, all 3 are renegades , all 3 killing machine, foul mouthed and "rude/crude" and every 2 feet they're killing or stabbing something, so the R rating makes perfect sense to me.

Wow. I actually found First Class to be the worst of the X-Films. Character relationships were HORRIBLY done (you cannot tell me you believe First Class's Xavier and Magneto would be playing chess together 40 years later), everyone was cardboard, and the First Class group of X-Men were totally forgettable. I actually prefer X3: Last Stand over First Class.

As for Deadpool "HAS to be R rated", I don't believe that for a minute. Why? PG-13 movies today would have been R rated 10 years ago. I would love for a Deadpool movie to just be a very simple plot. Imagine tossing Deadpool in a "Diehard" situation... Government sends "Project: Weapon X" assassin to take out Mutant Liberation Front terrorists with "minimal innocent casualties"... Give Deadpool dozens of opportunities for crazy environmental kills, quippy one-liners, and the occasional 4th wall break.

Quote:

Originally Posted by yourfacehere (Post 230535)
I've heard the folks who wrote zombie land are working on it... if so, fantastic.

If it's 1/10th as good as Zombieland, it'll be 100X better than any other Fox Superhero flick.

behindthemask 01-17-2012 08:34 PM

Blade 1 was badass, Stephen dorph was an excellent vampire, his death was a little fucked with the body turning into a giant blob then exploding but it was a good movie, 2nd movie gave us a bad ass vampire, ron pearlman's career restarted with that movie, if not for blade 2 you wouldn't have hellboy and you wouldn't have sons of anarchy, so you're welcome. Blade 3 did suck but it gave us Jessica Beil and hot toys another figure. I'd love a blade Hot toys, but fuck if I'm paying 5-900. damn u ebay!


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