[behindthemask]

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Originally Posted by webz

Wow. I actually found First Class to be the worst of the X-Films. Character relationships were HORRIBLY done (you cannot tell me you believe First Class's Xavier and Magneto would be playing chess together 40 years later), everyone was cardboard, and the First Class group of X-Men were totally forgettable. I actually prefer X3: Last Stand over First Class.

As for Deadpool "HAS to be R rated", I don't believe that for a minute. Why? PG-13 movies today would have been R rated 10 years ago. I would love for a Deadpool movie to just be a very simple plot. Imagine tossing Deadpool in a "Diehard" situation... Government sends "Project: Weapon X" assassin to take out Mutant Liberation Front terrorists with "minimal innocent casualties"... Give Deadpool dozens of opportunities for crazy environmental kills, quippy one-liners, and the occasional 4th wall break.



If it's 1/10th as good as Zombieland, it'll be 100X better than any other Fox Superhero flick.

When u say Wow, It's not a judge on my taste on movies, because I boycotted the movie firstclass, I just dl'd it 1 night for shits and giggles and I loved the intro, the guy who played magneto was great, and Kevin Bacon as a Nazi, common that was good, his german was perfect. I hated the predictable plot and would despire a series, but it served a purpose in making the unknown and unwise viewer a chance to learn part of the original story which makes some go back and buy comics or buy digital subscriptions which leads to dvd's and video games, and then toys and statues and then bedsheets haha . that is all.

[DogFashionDisco]

I really enjoyed First Class, and the guys that played Magneto, Xavier, and Sebastian Shaw (c'mon, Kevin Bacon was great). My biggest disappointment was how they killed off Darwin, I feel like that was a cheap gimmick. If they were going to treat a character that powerful in the comics like a total pussy than they should have just left him out of the movie altogether.

[quipp209]

Sorry to say this but I think a stand alone deadpool movie would simply flop he just don't have the star power to draw a crowd like Thor or captain America I think an x force movie would kick serious ass but not a deadpool movie sorry if anyone was offended but i think it would end up wasting an hour n a half of my life n marvel already took an hour n half of my life away with that crappy rendition of daredevil only thing that worked in that movie was bullseye

[Exodus]

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Originally Posted by DogFashionDisco

I really enjoyed First Class, and the guys that played Magneto, Xavier, and Sebastian Shaw (c'mon, Kevin Bacon was great). My biggest disappointment was how they killed off Darwin, I feel like that was a cheap gimmick. If they were going to treat a character that powerful in the comics like a total pussy than they should have just left him out of the movie altogether.

I totally agree with that statement, why bring Darwin if he's easily killed off. I wish they would have killed off Angel actually. She was useless and annoying. Total waste of bringing a mutant into life from the comics. January Jones as Emma Frost was great though.

[wolverine2281]

I wouldn't care if it flops because enough people don't see it as long as it's a kick ass movie!

[Tiberius]

Make it 18A hahaha. I think they could make it work with it being PG-13/14A. However, I would prefer a rated R version just because to me it gives them more creativity. Or, it will make it to easy and it will suck shit.

[Tiberius]

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Originally Posted by DogFashionDisco

I really enjoyed First Class, and the guys that played Magneto, Xavier, and Sebastian Shaw (c'mon, Kevin Bacon was great). My biggest disappointment was how they killed off Darwin, I feel like that was a cheap gimmick. If they were going to treat a character that powerful in the comics like a total pussy than they should have just left him out of the movie altogether.

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Originally Posted by Exodus

I totally agree with that statement, why bring Darwin if he's easily killed off. I wish they would have killed off Angel actually. She was useless and annoying. Total waste of bringing a mutant into life from the comics. January Jones as Emma Frost was great though.

Darwin is pretty much invincible. We don't see him "blow up" on screen, he just glows. They say they can't bury him but don't say why. You want to talk about useless characters, see Angel, so dumb.

[yourfacehere]

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Originally Posted by Tiberius

Darwin is pretty much invincible. We don't see him "blow up" on screen, he just glows. They say they can't bury him but don't say why. You want to talk about useless characters, see Angel, so dumb.

Was angel the hooker with the wings?

Anyway, first class sucked, except for Magneto being a revenge driven James Bond for the whole beginning of the movie. That was great, especially the part with the knife and the beer, ohh the beer...

Also Darwin was only there for cheap racial tension and the whole, mutants and oppressed races of people are so similar. It wasn't well thought out, and came off as wow, the director is fucked up.

Anyway, a Deadpool movie, if done correctly, would probably draw his fan base to go see it, word of mouth would get it to be more popular. It'd be unlikely that it wouldn't flop, the only way you could prevent it, is if you made a trailer ala Michael Bay. People don't want a story nowadays, they want to laugh and watch fight scenes, and if possible crap all over themselves in the process...

Okay, I may have lied about that bit at the very end but the rest of my statement stands, mindless violence, and gratuitous gore any day over story, not that the Transformers franchise is ever going to be nominated for a golden globe, or whatever the award is called.

Although after reading webz' post, I think it might actually work, Die hard but with Deadpool, hell I'd go see it, and not just because I'm a raging Deadpool fanatic, but because of the prospect of a Tremendously funny experience, with explosions and some of the best one liners this side of Arnold Schwarzenegger. I think I'd pee my pants laughing...or crap myself. But it all comes down to the execution, the trailers, and the exposure. In this day and age, we as a people have the attention spans of gerbils, so unless we see a good chunk of flashy as hell trailers every ten minutes, the movie won't stick to our memory.

[Mastersteef]

With this possible Deadpool movie, I'd love to see it parody itself "R-rated Austin Powers/Hot Shots/Naked Gun" (just like any given issue of deadpool) with Wade stopping the movie to change random things or just start giving the movie a running commentary. An action comedy with the focus on comedy would be the way to go with this in my opinion.

Though I will say that I'm 99% sure that the studio is going balk at the idea of having Reynolds "in costume" the whole movie and they are going to force situations that require him to be maskless when he doesn't necessarily need to be.

[yourfacehere]

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Originally Posted by Mastersteef

With this possible Deadpool movie, I'd love to see it parody itself "R-rated Austin Powers/Hot Shots/Naked Gun" (just like any given issue of deadpool) with Wade stopping the movie to change random things or just start giving the movie a running commentary. An action comedy with the focus on comedy would be the way to go with this in my opinion.

Though I will say that I'm 99% sure that the studio is going balk at the idea of having Reynolds "in costume" the whole movie and they are going to force situations that require him to be maskless when he doesn't necessarily need to be.

Either that or they'll make him go shirtless for long periods of time.

[Tiberius]

Maybe if they did this 15 years ago, Jim Carry would make an awesome Deadpool. Just his movements would be spot on, imo.

[Greenskar]

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Originally Posted by quipp209

Sorry to say this but I think a stand alone deadpool movie would simply flop he just don't have the star power to draw a crowd like Thor or captain America I think an x force movie would kick serious ass but not a deadpool movie sorry if anyone was offended but i think it would end up wasting an hour n a half of my life n marvel already took an hour n half of my life away with that crappy rendition of daredevil only thing that worked in that movie was bullseye

I believe you're right about this movie flopping. People on here seriously overestimate Deadpools popularity because of his current over exposure in marvel comics. Guess what? It doesn't extend very far beyond that point if you don't follow comics or aren't a fighting game fanatic.

That's exactly why it should be rated R. All that die hard, blah blah blah, eff that. Deadpool stories are not to be taken seriously. He's an escape from that deep stuff. You want that, that's what dark knight rises is for.

I want blood, I want gore, I want hallucinations full of boobies and i want my pizza right now not 30 minutes from now and the soda better not be flat DAMMIT!

I want Expendables...starring Deadpool, with Deadpool as the supporting cast. Psssshh... this movie doesn't need to be rated R like Justin Bieber doesn't need to look like a 13yr old Ellen Degeneres to make teeny boppers claim to have his seed in 'em!

[quipp209]

What would the movie be about anyone wanna throw some ideas out there maybe that will change the way I'm lookin at this movie?

[webz]

The movie plot would be easy. Basically, make a "serious" parody of all the recent action super-hero movies (such as was done with spy movies with previously mentioned Austin Powers). Deadpool really lends himself to that style, and it's the only way to make his 4th wall breaks and inner monologues translate in a "believable" way. I'm not saying make it totally silly, but just "out there" enough to work. More examples of "serious parody" would include Hot Fuzz and Shaun of the Dead. They are clever & hilarious, but aren't the mindless pop-drivel of Abrahams and Zucker.

As I said before, I see Deadpool in a "Die Hard" type film, being unleashed on some Mutant Terrorist group by a clandestine government agency. The plot needs only be thick enough to hold together the set pieces of Deadpool's quippy kills. Remember the movie, "Hannibal"? The story was HORRIBLE, but it served as a quick vehicle to the artsy deaths Lecter bestowed on his assailants. Take that concept, but "Deadpool" it. Deadpool could "die" a few times, lose a limb or two, and my personal favorite: Deadpool kills a terrorist, saving a woman. She asks him if she can thank him. He ziplines down (a la Spider-Man)... she removes the mouth portion of his mask, sees the scars, screams and runs... Deadpool's response: "Wha??? Am I oozing or something?! grrr... women..."

Cameo appearances could include several of the previously mentioned characters, most important would be Stephen Lang as Cable. He'd be the straight man to give weight to Deadpool's more zany antics.

[webz]

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Originally Posted by quipp209

Sorry to say this but I think a stand alone deadpool movie would simply flop he just don't have the star power to draw a crowd like Thor or captain America I think an x force movie would kick serious ass but not a deadpool movie sorry if anyone was offended but i think it would end up wasting an hour n a half of my life n marvel already took an hour n half of my life away with that crappy rendition of daredevil only thing that worked in that movie was bullseye

Thor had star power? Who? Anthony Hopkins was the ONLY big name. All you had to carry the film was Capt Kirk's dad, Darth Vader's Wife, and Bootstrap Bill. Not even a big name director. Most people know the director as "Gilderoy Lockhart" in Harry Potter. Of all the Marvel-character based films to date, this one should have been the most likely to fail... but it didn't.

Thor as a character has (up until VERY recently) been a 2nd or 3rd tier character. In the 80's and 90's, I was a huge Avengers fan, and Thor got MAYBE one or two lines an issue, if that. In fact, most writers seemed to not know what to do with him, so they often wrote him out of the story, dealing with some Asgardian uprising etc. He's only recently found a foothold in the Iron Man, Captain America, Wolverine, and Spider-Man level of recognition.

The movie was great, but I'll be totally honest, before seeing it, the ONLY reason I was interested was because it would be part of the prologue leading to the Avengers film. I had zero interest from the character standpoint. After watching the film, I totally was blown away (still can't stand the comic version of Thor).

[webz]

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Originally Posted by Mastersteef

With this possible Deadpool movie, I'd love to see it parody itself [...] with Wade stopping the movie to change random things or just start giving the movie a running commentary. An action comedy with the focus on comedy would be the way to go with this in my opinion.
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You know what??? I think you hit gold there.... Deadpool needs to be a mocumentary/soap like The Office, Modern Family, etc.. You are exactly right. 3 cheers. THAT'S how to handle the inner monologues. The breaking of the 4th wall can happen during the action scenes, but quick cuts to Deadpool sitting doing random unrelated things (sitting in a plush chair wearing a smoking jacket, or in the kitchen, scrambling eggs), adding commentary, would hit the nail on the head. Brilliant. I tip my hat to you.

[Starscream99]

This sounds awesome to me. If its done right of course.

[iLegends73]

i have been keeping my eye on this movie since ryan was in XMO wolverine. he is hands dwn the best person to play DP. look at blade 3 then just picture him in a black and red suit and BAM u got DP. the only thing i was really worried about was robert rodriguez turned it dwn as a director which sux cause he would have made it a gud ass movie

[Jmacq1]

Deadpool won't be R-Rated.

His comic books weren't R-Rated until the MAX series in the last year or so. Why should his movie be?

I know, I know...Blade was R-Rated, but you know what? I bet if Blade were made today, it'd be cut for PG-13.

Oh, and if it WAS R-Rated...you wouldn't get toys. Except maybe like Hot Toys/Sideshow kind of stuff.

All that, and I really think Rob Liefeld is full of bologna. He probably saw a fan film and took it for test footage. Deadpool is barely on the pre-production radar right now, especially after GL bombed, but it had already fallen into development hell before then.

[Crazy Jetty]

I completely disagree with the "Deadpool needs to be R to be accurate/cool/awesome."
LotR was pretty damned violent, and it was PG-13. People getting arms cut off, people getting shot with arrow, people getting their heads cut off.
TF: RotF likewise was extremely fowlmouthed, and it was PG-13.

Plus, as has been pointed out it wasn't until recently that Deadpool recieved and "adult" treatement in the comics, and was still everything he is, pretty much.
Gore and such is, and always has been a pretty lame crutch, and completely unessisary to the quality of a good film. A movie can be just as good without gratuitous gore, and likwise as most slasher films show us, it can be pretty weak with it.

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Oh, and if it WAS R-Rated...you wouldn't get toys. Except maybe like Hot Toys/Sideshow kind of stuff.

An R rating doesn't mean anything to getting toys. We got kids line toys dedicated to Predator, and Aliens (Kenner was pretty successful with both). There were stuffed talking dolls of Freddy Krugar, for crissakes. (Yeah, let's tuck out daughter in bed with a doll representing a child molestor!)

Besides, with MU, we've probably already got toys of most characters who'd appear in a deadpool movie, anyway.

[Greenskar]

The thing with LOTR is that you have the "creature" factor, or that which is not considered human. Rating systems for movies are weird in that its ok to severe limbs and such if its not red blood or human. Decapitation can be implied on a human but not explicitly shown, etc.

And Deadpool is pretty damn foul mouthed. Just because what he says in the comics are always bleeped out doesn't make him less foul mouthed. Nudity within his hallucinations of what he wishes was happening amongst the women around him is another option an R rated movie that you don't in pg-13.

And to be completely honest, personally I'd rather enjoy a character like this amongst a more mature audience (ok so as mature as it gets for adult Deadpool fans) then bunch of 11-15 yr olds who never shut up during movies (some bad experiences with such).

TFROTF is not what I consider foul mouthed...at all. It was just a terrible movie in general.

[Crazy Jetty]

I'm not saying I don't want it to be R rated. I honetsly don't care one way or another, as I have no intentions on seeing this movie one way or another.
I'm just saying that it's a false assumption that this movie won't be good, violent, or fowlmouthed if it's PG-13.

[Tiberius]

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Originally Posted by Crazy Jetty

I completely disagree with the "Deadpool needs to be R to be accurate/cool/awesome."
LotR was pretty damned violent, and it was PG-13. People getting arms cut off, people getting shot with arrow, people getting their heads cut off.
TF: RotF likewise was extremely fowlmouthed, and it was PG-13.

Plus, as has been pointed out it wasn't until recently that Deadpool recieved and "adult" treatement in the comics, and was still everything he is, pretty much.
Gore and such is, and always has been a pretty lame crutch, and completely unessisary to the quality of a good film. A movie can be just as good without gratuitous gore, and likwise as most slasher films show us, it can be pretty weak with it.



An R rating doesn't mean anything to getting toys. We got kids line toys dedicated to Predator, and Aliens (Kenner was pretty successful with both). There were stuffed talking dolls of Freddy Krugar, for crissakes. (Yeah, let's tuck out daughter in bed with a doll representing a child molestor!)

Besides, with MU, we've probably already got toys of most characters who'd appear in a deadpool movie, anyway.

You both have a point. But Kenner and Hasbro are 2 different companies and aim at different age groups.

[Crazy Jetty]

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Originally Posted by Tiberius

You both have a point. But Kenner and Hasbro are 2 different companies and aim at different age groups.

Not really, since Kenner became Hasbro. ;P
Also, the agegroup Kenner was aiming at, is the same agegroup Hasbro does. In fact, given MU's collector oriented nature, I'd reason Hasbro's targeting older people, than Kenner's Alien and Predator lines were.

But seriously, the last punisher movie didn't stop Hasbro from seeding Punisher into MU. Deadpool's child-inappropriate nature in the comics hasn't stopped them from making a half dozen or so different Deadpool figures, between MU, Comics pack, and XMO:W lines.
Would there be a full retail line? Probably not. But then there wasn't one for X-Men: First Class, either. I'd reason Deadpool wouldn't get a toyline because he's Deadpool, and a relatively unknown character outside comic fans. So, as either PG-13, or an R movie, I think it's a moot point. Deadpool's not big enough that Hasbro would spend their resources on a character dedicated toyline.

Wow... X-men for the first time in ages isn't a big enough property to merrit a toyline... >_<
I remember when that used to be Avengers.

[Greenskar]

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Originally Posted by Crazy Jetty

I'm not saying I don't want it to be R rated. I honetsly don't care one way or another, as I have no intentions on seeing this movie one way or another.
I'm just saying that it's a false assumption that this movie won't be good, violent, or fowlmouthed if it's PG-13.

I believe fox's track record with handling Marvel characters is what the majority of fans are using as justifiable evidence. The only notable exception I can think of are any scenes that involve magneto young or old killing people.