[icematta]

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Originally Posted by Nimrod

Anyone saying this guy looks like the source material must not work out. I didn't know that Disney hired Russel Wilson to play Namor. This actor is short, has zero muscle tone or definition. Lack traps & his arms are puny, the damn arm bracelets look like they're gonna slide off. He has lower back flab! For someone that has gone toe to toe with Thor, Hercules & the Hulk in the comics, this guy looks like he'd have trouble fighting & beating the Wasp. Disney dropped the ball big time on this casting choice & neglecting to work him out.

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Originally Posted by mangkanorxxv

who's playing NAMOR? is he more jacked than Momoa?? Attuma looks like the Heart Eating Priest from Temple of Doom.

The actors name is Tenoch Huerta, he is 5'7, and no much muscle mass, just a obscure actor that was in one movie in the states called Forever Purge...

[EternianJerkian]

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Originally Posted by icematta

The actors name is Tenoch Huerta, he is 5'7, and no much muscle mass, just a obscure actor that was in one movie in the states called Forever Purge...

eh i dunno. I googled the name and this came up, so he must have SOME muscle mass if he's working out that much. lol
https://jackedgorilla.com/tenoch-hue...rkout-routine/

[IzzyTipsy]

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Originally Posted by Nimrod

Anyone saying this guy looks like the source material must not work out. I didn't know that Disney hired Russel Wilson to play Namor. This actor is short, has zero muscle tone or definition. Lack traps & his arms are puny, the damn arm bracelets look like they're gonna slide off. He has lower back flab! For someone that has gone toe to toe with Thor, Hercules & the Hulk in the comics, this guy looks like he'd have trouble fighting & beating the Wasp. Disney dropped the ball big time on this casting choice & neglecting to work him out.

I assume this is because he has to face down...Shuri, not Thor, Hulk, etc. And will wind up fighting people like Kang, Reed, the X-Men, etc. aka mostly skinny people.

[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by EternianJerkian

eh i dunno. I googled the name and this came up, so he must have SOME muscle mass if he's working out that much. lol
https://jackedgorilla.com/tenoch-hue...rkout-routine/

It doesn't strike you as a little odd that there are no photos in that link extolling the virtues of his workouts? The proof of hard work in the gym is usually self evident. Also, a 145lbs 5'8" Namor is not a stat line I would print were I a marketing exec at Marvel Studios. I have seen a few of these PR deflections since the trailer hit and they make me even more concerned given the obvious fluff, unfamiliar publications, and lack of dates normally attributed to at least semi-real articles. I want this movie to do well and I might be an even bigger fan of Namor than I am of Black Panther....but, yeah...we'll seeeeee

[EternianJerkian]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

It doesn't strike you as a little odd that there are no photos in that link extolling the virtues of his workouts?

I dunno. There don't seem to be photos of any of the celebs whose workouts are listed on that site. lol

Never even occured to me Bruce Campbell still works out. Good for him. lol
https://jackedgorilla.com/bruce-camp...rkout-routine/

[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by EternianJerkian

I dunno. There don't seem to be photos of any of the celebs whose workouts are listed on that site. lol

Never even occured to me Bruce Campbell still works out. Good for him. lol
https://jackedgorilla.com/bruce-camp...rkout-routine/

Sure, I'm completely unfamiliar with that website, however, Hemsworth's incredible gains were widely publicized. Nangiani's startling gains were publicized. Portman's respectable gains were also pretty easily found. I actually did find some grainy (by digital standards) black and white photos (to help create contrast) that looked very pedestrian. The MCU is known for taking liberties, but the referenced character is 6'2" 278lbs and yoked. People will try to defend this casting because Namor's not a household name, but they might as well have casted Huerta as Hercules. It wouldn't be much less ridiculous. And it has nothing to do with the Meso tweak, I actually think that's cool.

[Black Arbor]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

Sure, I'm completely unfamiliar with that website, however, Hemsworth's incredible gains were widely publicized. Nangiani's startling gains were publicized. Portman's respectable gains were also pretty easily found. I actually did find some grainy (by digital standards) black and white photos (to help create contrast) that looked very pedestrian. The MCU is known for taking liberties, but the referenced character is 6'2" 278lbs and yoked. People will try to defend this casting because Namor's not a household name, but they might as well have casted Huerta as Hercules. It wouldn't be much less ridiculous. And it has nothing to do with the Meso tweak, I actually think that's cool.

Maybe they figure no one gives a damn about his workout and resulting gains since he's not a household name (yet)? Honestly I think he looks cool, I like the Aztec spin on him and the Atlanteans, he may be taller in the movie (if they can do it for Tom Cruise, they can do it for anyone!), and I don't mind the fact that he's not shredded to hell. A person who spends most of their life underwater is gonna have leaner swimming muscles, and the lack of definition could just be fat over muscle, especially if those Atlantic waters are chilly!

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by Black Arbor

Maybe they figure no one gives a damn about his workout and resulting gains since he's not a household name (yet)? Honestly I think he looks cool, I like the Aztec spin on him and the Atlanteans, he may be taller in the movie (if they can do it for Tom Cruise, they can do it for anyone!), and I don't mind the fact that he's not shredded to hell. A person who spends most of their life underwater is gonna have leaner swimming muscles, and the lack of definition could just be fat over muscle, especially if those Atlantic waters are chilly!

If thats the case they may as well cast lizzo as storm, the mcgradys sisters as quicksilver and wanda, matthew mygodimgay as the new black panther and just chuck the source material for everything outta the goddamn window.

[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by Black Arbor

Maybe they figure no one gives a damn about his workout and resulting gains since he's not a household name (yet)? Honestly I think he looks cool, I like the Aztec spin on him and the Atlanteans, he may be taller in the movie (if they can do it for Tom Cruise, they can do it for anyone!), and I don't mind the fact that he's not shredded to hell. A person who spends most of their life underwater is gonna have leaner swimming muscles, and the lack of definition could just be fat over muscle, especially if those Atlantic waters are chilly!

lol Yeah, they definitely seem to have underestimated the fandom for Namor and modern Marvel's lack of an over-arching rubric for how characters should be illustrated has undoubtedly contributed to this sort of casting error. Technically, there's nothing wrong with Tenoch's face; he is able to approximate stern looks and emote with expressions well enough. But that's only part of Namor's character. Honestly, for someone that weighs 145lbs, it's a near impossibility for him to gain 50lbs of muscle and meet an acceptable catch weight of 200lbs. It's not just about being shredded. He's a wee little man.

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

lol Yeah, they definitely seem to have underestimated the fandom for Namor and modern Marvel's lack of an over-arching rubric for how characters should be illustrated has undoubtedly contributed to this sort of casting error. Technically, there's nothing wrong with Tenoch's face; he is able to approximate stern looks and emote with expressions well enough. But that's only part of Namor's character. Honestly, for someone that weighs 145lbs, it's a near impossibility for him to gain 50lbs of muscle and meet an acceptable catch weight of 200lbs. It's not just about being shredded. He's a wee little man.

Not to mention attuma doesnt look a fucking thing like attuma. Looks like an anorexic smurf cosplaying a tiki torch. Way to cock up two classic characters disney. Endgame really seems to be the end of decent marvel movies. God help them if they fuck up a nova movie.

[meihuar2006]

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Originally Posted by icematta

First time I'm gonna pass on a ML wave and a MCU movie in theaters, they are really dropping the ball... But I'll keep my hopes high...

Er...

It doesn't sound like you're keeping your hopes high if you're dismissing the film solely by its trailer (because "Attuma looks nothing like the comic book" and "Namor isn't 6 feet tall"?)

Would... your life be... happier if you didn't jump to such stark conclusions so quickly based on immediate impulse?

I mean... some of the regulars on this board... I worry they suffer... severe clinical depression...(?) Example: one guy intends to stop buying Hasbro figures because... the packinging looks different? And because the packaging has changed, he believes the Hasbro Marvel Legends line will... utterly fail and vanish from existence??

I mean... is the forum dominated by Severely Depressed Control Freaks?

"EVERYTHING IS A DISASTER! GAME OVER! GAME OVER! ONE OF MY PRE-CONCEIVED NOTIONS HAS BEEN CHALLENGED!"

[ronriii]

It's definitely a unique spin of the source material, but I actually don't mind how they've adapted Namor's design by adding a Mesoamerican influence while keeping the bare essentials of his look (which is more than can be said for a lot of MCU designs). I'll wait to judge the actor until I see his performance in the movie.

[GizmoTron]

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Originally Posted by meihuar2006

Er...

It doesn't sound like you're keeping your hopes high if you're dismissing the film solely by its trailer (because "Attuma looks nothing like the comic book" and "Namor isn't 6 feet tall"?)

Would... your life be... happier if you didn't jump to such stark conclusions so quickly based on immediate impulse?

I mean... some of the regulars on this board... I worry they suffer... severe clinical depression...(?) Example: one guy intends to stop buying Hasbro figures because... the packinging looks different? And because the packaging has changed, he believes the Hasbro Marvel Legends line will... utterly fail and vanish from existence??

I mean... is the forum dominated by Severely Depressed Control Freaks?

"EVERYTHING IS A DISASTER! GAME OVER! GAME OVER! ONE OF MY PRE-CONCEIVED NOTIONS HAS BEEN CHALLENGED!"

To be fair, the whole point of trailers is to advertise, build interest, and to convince people to go see the movie. If he didn't like the trailer then it's perfectly reasonable that he wouldn't be interested in seeing the movie.

[Kernel]

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Originally Posted by Nimrod

Anyone saying this guy looks like the source material must not work out. I didn't know that Disney hired Russel Wilson to play Namor. This actor is short, has zero muscle tone or definition. Lack traps & his arms are puny, the damn arm bracelets look like they're gonna slide off. He has lower back flab! For someone that has gone toe to toe with Thor, Hercules & the Hulk in the comics, this guy looks like he'd have trouble fighting & beating the Wasp. Disney dropped the ball big time on this casting choice & neglecting to work him out.

He does kinda look like Russell Wilson from behind ha ha
I mean the guy wasn’t the most impressive in terms of build but I’ll be damned if he wasn’t a fantastic player on the field... same thing with Tom Brady, Kevin Mchale etc. they aren’t specimens but they get it done on the field. I guess I’m in the camp of wait and see the movie before I get too hung up on appearances... green scale speedo with ankle wings is a tough look to adapt on screen.
Some of these actors I assume are roided up and or on extra T... not this sub-mariner lol

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Originally Posted by Dolemite

I have better shit to do with my time than drive around to every store in the area toy hunting.

If something isn't at my local store, I actually exercise patience and wait for prices to come down on ebay, ask a seller to send me a close-up pic (if they don't already have one), and then I buy a figure with good paint for a reasonable price.

I just assumed you drove a really fuel efficient gas sipper Dolemite!!

[Condiment King]

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Originally Posted by meihuar2006

Er...

It doesn't sound like you're keeping your hopes high if you're dismissing the film solely by its trailer (because "Attuma looks nothing like the comic book" and "Namor isn't 6 feet tall"?)

Would... your life be... happier if you didn't jump to such stark conclusions so quickly based on immediate impulse?

I mean... some of the regulars on this board... I worry they suffer... severe clinical depression...(?) Example: one guy intends to stop buying Hasbro figures because... the packinging looks different? And because the packaging has changed, he believes the Hasbro Marvel Legends line will... utterly fail and vanish from existence??

I mean... is the forum dominated by Severely Depressed Control Freaks?

"EVERYTHING IS A DISASTER! GAME OVER! GAME OVER! ONE OF MY PRE-CONCEIVED NOTIONS HAS BEEN CHALLENGED!"

You’re bizarrely confusing personal preference with clinical depression. A product has changed, the guy doesn’t want to buy the product anymore because of the change, whilst it probably won’t be the death of the Marvel legends line, it may indeed hurt sales, as for BP2, a trailers job is to sell you the film, this trailer didn’t sell it for a lot of people, simple.

[lordbest]

I've bought maybe 5% of my Marvel Legends in person and the rest online (out of necessity, local stores are inconsistent with stocking it) and I have had exactly 0 paint app issues since the infamous Misty Knight lazy eye. So I can't say the doom-saying over this new packaging resonates with me.

[Jeddostotle7]

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Originally Posted by Kernel

Some of these actors I assume are roided up and or on extra T... not this sub-mariner lol

Yeah, honestly I'd rather have a toned-but-lithe Namor than another situation like "Kumail takes a picture where his head looks like it's about to explode because of all the steroids he's on". The exercise, dieting, and (likely) steroid regimens so many of these superhero stars are on are just not healthy.

[EternianJerkian]

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Originally Posted by lordbest

I've bought maybe 5% of my Marvel Legends in person and the rest online (out of necessity, local stores are inconsistent with stocking it) and I have had exactly 0 paint app issues since the infamous Misty Knight lazy eye. So I can't say the doom-saying over this new packaging resonates with me.

Aye, same. I don't even have a toystore anywhere near me so my kid and I get our figures online almost all the time. Having a nearby store filled with product is a luxury we don't have. lol

[Condiment King]

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Originally Posted by EternianJerkian

Aye, same. I don't even have a toystore anywhere near me so my kid and I get our figures online almost all the time. Having a nearby store filled with product is a luxury we don't have. lol

If you can take a trip out to your nearest Smyths toy store some day you’ll love it, I don’t collect them, but I’ve been to a couple of different stores and both were Marvel Legends heaven, also try B&M, bizarrely they can be a good source for decent figs, they used to have DC collectibles, they randomly now and again get in shipments of DC multiverse figs and recently I saw some MOTU origins in there

[Condiment King]

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Originally Posted by lordbest

I've bought maybe 5% of my Marvel Legends in person and the rest online (out of necessity, local stores are inconsistent with stocking it) and I have had exactly 0 paint app issues since the infamous Misty Knight lazy eye. So I can't say the doom-saying over this new packaging resonates with me.

I think the way it will hurt sales are impulse buys, I haven’t collected Marvel Legends since the ToyBiz days, but I saw the last Red Skull they brought out in store and thought it looked great so bought it, I had already seen a pic of it online but that wasn’t enough to make my buy it, seeing it in person did that, so in theory a pic on a box won’t either. Also mint in box collectors probs won’t want these, and then there are those that buy 2, 1 to open, 1 to keep boxed, they may or may not also be put off by this.

[EternianJerkian]

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Originally Posted by Condiment King

If you can take a trip out to your nearest Smyths toy store some day you’ll love it, I don’t collect them, but I’ve been to a couple of different stores and both were Marvel Legends heaven, also try B&M, bizarrely they can be a good source for decent figs, they used to have DC collectibles, they randomly now and again get in shipments of DC multiverse figs and recently I saw some MOTU origins in there

They're no Smyths store anywhere near, mate. We got a B&M within reasonable driving distance but they ain't had anything good in ages. They did used to be really good for finding great figures at discount prices. And aye, they have MotU Origins but only the vintage head Skelly and He-Man that shelfwarm everywhere. lol.

[Condiment King]

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Originally Posted by EternianJerkian

They're no Smyths store anywhere near, mate. We got a B&M within reasonable driving distance but they ain't had anything good in ages. They did used to be really good for finding great figures at discount prices. And aye, they have MotU Origins but only the vintage head Skelly and He-Man that shelfwarm everywhere. lol.

B&M is hit and miss for sure, but I always check their toy section whenever I’m in one, I got a good few of my BTAS figures from in there, I just kick myself for not buying more than one, people pay a fortune for some of them now and they were like £8 at the time. You’re right about there only being 2 offerings origins wise, I got a feeling Evil-Lyn might join them, I saw her origins figure on sale the other day for £3! Don’t you just wish we had an equivalent to a Target here in the U.K., that place sounds like a gold mine for figures.

[AcademyofDrX]

Today I learned the most important qualities for an actor to be cast as a superhero.

1. Completes a bulk up workout regimen
2. Publicizes that regimen
3. Is at least six feet tall
X. Has acting ability to embody outlandish, imaginary characters so that they resonate with an audience -- not important, actually!

Like, I get that this is an action figure forum so the bodies are part of the appeal, but when I'm getting toys from a media property, the first thing I want is for the media to be good. Then, and only then, I want a good representation of the characters that are on the screen.

[Dolemite]

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Originally Posted by firmpulse

Wait...patience? You mean you actually handle toy collecting and the decision making that accompanies it like an actual adult? I wouldn't expect that from someone blithely accused of "galavanting". You, galavanter, you.

Yes, yes. A galavanter is I. I am a galavanter. A galavanting I will go!

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Yeah. We can't see the figures we plan to buy and no more plastic trays. We'll have figures affixed to cardboard backers and weapons wrapped in tissue paper. No longer worth galavanting around town in the endless search for the "perfectly painted action figure."

The tissue paper thing is already happening. I picked up the Transformers RED Shockwave the other day and yup, his accessories were balled up in a wad of tissue paper. Perfect if I haz the sniffles while galavanting around town!

[Dolemite]

As for the who Namor "controversy," I was never really a fan to begin with so I don't really have a horse in this race, but for people who were into him I can totally understand their annoyance. I think the big, giant earrings, nose piercing, and overall Aztec vibe look positively goofy, but that's just me. I'm sure it was done to differentiate him from Aquaman, so whatever.

As for his physique, Namor was never a big, jacked guy, but more lean and muscular. I think the actor looks okay in that regard. I haven't seen the new Thor movie yet but I've seen the after-credit scene with Hercules on YouTube, and THAT'S a guy that needed a few more years in the weight room, because Hercules and all.