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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

Quote a source, because all I've ever seen is marvel saying they are excited about the film when asked etc. Vaughn and Singer have had discussions with marvel writers about this film too prior to filming.

Quote a source yourself. Bearing in mind that makers of the film can talk with "Marvel Writers" all day without it having a damn thing to do with Marvel as a company. "Marvel Writers" are not slaves owned by Marvel Comics...they are permitted to talk to people without it reflecting the opinions of Marvel Entertainment or Disney as an organization. Nor does Marvel as a company (Bearing in Mind Marvel COMICS and Marvel STUDIOS are two different branches) saying they are "excited" for First Class (if indeed they have) have anything to do with whether Marvel studios wants the rights back to ALL their cinematic properties, even if they know it's an unlikely thing to happen anytime soon.

Nevermind that I didn't say diddly-squat about whether or not Marvel was "excited" for the film. Only that Marvel wants the rights to X-Men back. Source?

Disney Wants the Movie Rights Back for Fantastic Four, X-Men, Daredevil and Spider-Man - Nerd Reactor

Again, I am not agreeing with the above poster that says "Marvel wants this film to fail." But it takes some serious stupidity to honestly believe that Marvel Studios wouldn't LEAP at the chance to get the X-Men or Spider-Man (or Fantastic Four for that matter) rights back in their hands if it wouldn't cost them so much as to risk the future of the company (see below).

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Every fanboy keeps saying marvel wants the rights back, but honestly, all the comments they've said is they are indifferent about it. If they truly wanted the rights back, Disney could get them back.

Since you're so big on sources, please find a source that says Marvel Studios/Disney are "indifferent" about getting their rights back. I'll be waiting.

As for the second part of your statement. WRONG. The contracts that Marvel Entertainment signed with 20th Century Fox and Sony Pictures for X-Men and Spider-Man (and some of the other characters that have been made into movies at other studios) are "in perpetuity" contracts. This means that Fox and Sony can keep both of them effectively FOREVER as long as they continue to make movies based on those characters within a pre-set span of time (I believe it's 5 years between movies, but usually ends up being shorter than that). There is NOTHING Disney can do to get the rights back short of giving Fox or Sony MASSIVE payoffs, and by "massive" I mean payoffs in the billions of dollars range...which would effectively double (or more) the price Disney paid for Marvel as a whole ($4 billion). Effectively Sony and Fox can "name their price" for Disney/Marvel buying back those rights, and it ain't gonna go cheap. Not even Disney has that kind of cash just laying around waiting to be used. So again...no matter how much Disney/Marvel might WANT the rights back, there's nothing they can do about it until Sony or Fox violates the original contracts in some way, or simply chooses to hand the rights back to them (unlikely unless the property has been driven into the ground to the point of utter unprofitability).

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And again, like I said, the wealth of characters Marvel is bringing out would deny them from doing an X-Men movie themselves for awhile if ever. There's so many that they've already had to push back Runaways as is until later.

Another logical fallacy. If by some unlikely miracle the rights came back to Disney while the X-Men or Spider-Man properties were still profitable at the movies, I can guarantee they'd GLADLY push aside all the Ant-Man, Dr. Strange, Runaways, and Inhumans movies in the world to make room for an X-Men or Spider-Man film by Marvel studios ASAP. There's nothing that stops Disney/Marvel from "re-prioritizing" their slate of movies, and with Disney's backing behind them there's really nothing that stops them from having a ton of films in development at once (particularly when many of them are still in scriptwriting stage, which is hardly a resource-intensive level of production). A major studio like Fox, Warner Brothers, Paramount, or Disney (particularly when you consider their multiple subsidiaries) can put out enough movies in one year to completely encompass all of the films Marvel has "in development" at the moment. The amount of films "being worked on" has NOTHING to do with Marvel's ability to make more films. People act like Marvel's slate of proposed films is ambitious, when in actuality it's small potatoes in the grand scheme of filmmaking.

But again, it's a moot point, because Fox and Sony are NOT going to give the rights back. It is, however, idiotic to believe that Disney/Marvel wouldn't LIKE to get the rights to two of Marvel's three most profitable franchises back in their own hands.