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Crazy Jetty
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Thats the big problem with Marvel, they feel the need to kill 1.5 characters for every event, and always at the end of the first act or the final act. Think about it. the only one in recent memory where nobody died was world war hulk
Civil War = Black Goliath
House of M = Hawkeye
Messiah Complex = Caliban
Second Coming = Nightcrawler, Cable
Avengers Disassembled = Antman 2, Hawkeye, Vision
Seige = Ares, Sentry
Fear Itself = Bucky
Secret Invasion = Echo, Wasp
End of Grant Morrisons Run = Jean Grey
Annhilation = Annhilus, Quasar, Thanos
Annhilation Conquest = Groot, Blastaar
War of Kings = Vulcan, Lilandra, Blackbolt
Thanos Imperative = Starlord, Nova, Thanos
Shadowland = Bullseye
And I know there are some I missed. The recent death of Bucky kind of angered me, because he had only been around for a short period of time, and there was so much potential, yet they decide to kill him because steve rogers has to be cap. Well last I checked, US Agent wasnt taken cause Walker is crippled, Bucky could have become US Agent.
Marvel needs to realize theres better ways to tell a story than just death. They could have physically and mentally destroyed Bucky and then told the story of him rebuilding himself, much like Quicksilver
and now I'm afraid Thor and Cyclops are next on the list. oy. I can understand death, it happens. but its becoming predictable, not to mention annoying considering nearly 40% of those I listed are back already.
Yeah, you forgot Cap in Civil War, Human Torch, and Ultimate Peter Parker.
I remember when a character dying was a huge deal. And death actually ment something. It motivated and moved characters. It was a big deal when Supergirl died at the end of Crisis on Infinite Earths. It was a big deal when Jean Grey died at the end of the Dark Phoenix Saga (Dispite that it was later told that wasn't actually Jean at all). It was a massive motivational deal when Jason Todd died, which had a monumental effect on Bruce, that changed the Bat forever.
Superman's death, while being obviously a publicity stunt, even that was still a big deal, both in canon universe, and in real life. His death had huge ramifications (hell, Blackest Night is basically based on the fact he died and came back).
I'm not trying to fan wank on DC and trash Marvel, but the death of a character seems to carry more weight in the DCU than it currently does in Marvel. They both seem to look at "Who can we kill, that will increase sales?" But at least DCU seems to carry more weight, story wise when a characetr dies. (an entire cult forming around resurrecting Superboy, Cassie and Tim both deeply effected by it. Bruce's "death" impacting all of Gotham and every member of the Bat family, as it should.)
I dunno. I feel like the last written comic deaths that were more about plot, and character growth than to move sales, were the deaths of Sue Dibney, Tim Drake's Dad, and Digger Harkness in Identity Crisis.
I don't mind characetrs dying. It happens in real life. But they're so meaningless now a days. And just like Superman, they've already got them planned to come back. (And that's another irksome thing. It doesn't bother me when a writer has a good idea how to return a dead character to life, ALA Green Arrow, but you know they had Cap planned as soon as they decided to off him. But that's a whole different conversation)
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