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Originally Posted by CLASSIFIED

A claim is something someone states to be true.

To me Spidey represents a wisecracking super hero that fights bad guys, has amazing friends, and loads of super awesome action figures.

Peter Parker always seems to have a ton of personal problems, something a lot of us can relate too.

If they didn't reveal who New Spidey was before the first issue, if at all, I would have picked up the book.

The longer I had to wait before finding out, the longer I would have likely read the book. Heck, they might have even hooked me before the big reveal!

Because they revealed New Spidey's identity before the first issue I didn't bother. I've seen ethnic versions of traditionaly white superheros before... its a repeat... in order to pick up another Ultimate title they would need to try something new...

Like maybe an original ethnic character that has his own identity as opposed to one that borrows their identity from an already established character. I imagine there are minorities out there that find this practice of colorizing white superheroes insulting.

Oh, and I liked Ultimates 3, reminded me of Image comics.

I agree on all that except ultimates 3, but that doesn't mean that's what spider-man is supposed to represent, which is why I comment back towards his origins and the early issues prior to his action figures, and really witty repertoire. As of the mid 70s and 80s parker spider-man started becoming more towards what we see him as today, but in original execution he was more towards what I said in the meta commentary by using the civilians of the world. Then they started making the direct commentary on it in the 80s with the kid that was sick that spidey visited and the kid just assuming spidey was black.

I can see why people find the colorizing insulting, but the execution of it is what determines that. I'm not going to write off a comic as that without reading it first. This surprised me in how far away from that it was. Just like I don't view Nick Fury as that either.

As for prolonging the identity reveal. Modern audiences would have been pissed, and dropped the book entirely as has been shown with other comics. The modern immediate gratification of the world sadly ruins that notion of comic story telling. Plus I can see why they didn't do that for the Spidey comic itself as it'd be hard to tell the dual sides of the story from the start without revealing who he is. That would mean they would have had to wait on the Spidey title, and not do the reveal in ultimate fallout. Which would mean a different kind of title, or a different kind of way to start the mystery without a title to push it which creates problems. Spider-man is a humanized hero, so not having that person side of the story and just the superheroics would have left it rather cold and unfeeling.

It's complicated on how to approach it with all these things in mind, and in many ways feels like those are the exact reason bendis more or less said "screw it, we'll just do this in a traditional story telling manner instead of a few issues in going 5 months backwards in time." Which is also a story telling mechanic many are sick of now after its overabundant usage.

It's kind of like how red hulk and red she-hulk were over-milked on the who are they mystery. Personally, I didn't start picking up their stories until I found out who they were, and liked the idea of it because of who they were.

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Originally Posted by warmachine6

what happened to peter parker ??

In the ultimate universe, not the normal standard 616 marvel universe, Norman osborn killed him. Peter sacrificed himself to save his aunt may, bringing his final act full circle in how his arrogance and greed caused him to not save his uncle ben. The selflessness he learned since made him sacrifice himself to save his aunt.