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Originally Posted by stjuggernaut

you dont mean this one shown at the last SDCC do you??



because this one in the package looks completely different to that one shown with the new cap and thor. did they show another one that i missed then?

because i just held the figure from iron man 2 up aginst the new avengers packaging pic and the iron man is exactly the same in every single way.

well either way its only a mock up. im not one for accessories but that shoulder cannon does look pretty cool.

hopefully we will see some more avengers stuff at sdcc next month!

Yup I meant that one. Look at the chest details, lack of chest articulation, the gold stops on the sides of the lower torso connecting to upper torso, and some other design cues that seperate it from the IM2 figures. They are the same majorily in design aesthetics other than the triangle unibeam and grey parts on the legs(hard to see the rest of the details because of the packaging). Even the shoulder blades match too. The IM2 line ones were smaller. Cept that one pictured has feet articulation and the other photo one in the appreciation thread didn't look like they did. So that's good at least. Then these will have more articulation than what was shown for in the other pic. I also much prefer the lower neck shoulders on the triangle one over the raised warmachine shoulders of the circle one. Chances are this is another Ironman armor that'll be in the movie.

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Originally Posted by thechris

I can see myself passing on this line, at least on the hero figures. I'm just not a huge fan of movie likeness figures. Iron Man being a minor exception being as Robert Downey Jr. actually looks almost exactly like Tony Stark, though I don't have any figures that bare his resemblance, I maaay make an exception on that. Might pick up villains depending on what they have to fill out my Marvel Universe rogues. Hulk, Cap and Thor were disappointments with their movie accurate GI Joe body Emil Blonsky and Hulkbusters team and crappy movie accurate Abomination. Cap only had one rogue I could consider transferable into the MU line being Crossbones, and Thor's line having the Destroyer.

USAgent looks ridiculous next to MU, Red Guardian is somewhat passable. Iron Man 2 definitely gets the win for putting out figures that translate well to MU giving us, off the top of my head, at least FIVE usable comic rogues in Mandarin, Titanium Man, Crimson Dynamo, Whiplash and Iron Monger as well as a huge lot of generic army builders in the form of the Assault Drones and let's not forget the highly underrated Guardsmen. Let's not forget that they also gave us a perfect comic accurate Warmachine. I'd guess that no Marvel movie line was more successful or sold more figures and almost every villain, Warmachine and Comic Ironman figure was cleaned off the shelves.

I think that should tell Hasbro something. That people want more villains and comic accurate hero figures. There's only a small market for people who want Ryan Reynolds and Chris Hemsworth's mugs on their toys. Especially grown men. No offense to those that like this sort of thing but my friends came over and I had these two Green Lantern movie figures with Ryan Reynold's heads kicking around that I got for free with some DCIH lots I bought and that was the first thing and ONLY that they picked out as LAME.

I guess to each his own but there's already enough of a stigma that comes with collecting toys, I can only imagine if I started collecting dolls of teen girl heartthrobs. LOL. And if that isn't enough of a fair point, I rarely like the movie adaption of a character more than their comic book likeness and as such, I prefer comic accurate figures.

Err, well Chris Hemsworth as Thor had too many figures to pick from, but they did sell well enough for what was expected of Thor. Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool never got a figure at all(cept for minimates!), so no clue what you're talking about there. If he did I would have bought it, as I'm sure would have many others to have a pre-weapon X deadpool figure. That Weapon XI stuntman figure does not count, but it did manage to sell too. Personally, I'm just looking for the rest of the movie avengers I don't already have. Most of the designs are based on the Ultimate comics anyway, so you can fill in your comic-verse with movie figures like Nick Fury, maybe Hawkeye and Black Widow if they release them. You got to remember though, these toylines are for KIDS. The collectors are secondary. With this in mind they need screen accuracy as kids don't always read or even know of the comics. They just know what they saw in theaters or on DVD. You also have to remember your individual store doesn't speak for all nationwide either. The profits were still pretty good all around during the current economy, so yes they were successful enough. Sadly with the sheer success of IM2 in comparison though, Ironman will probably get several figures while the rest each get one of their movie costumes. Nick Fury is indeed the same as ultimate. Ultimate comics are just as genuine and real as marvel 616. They also use the IM movie armor in current ultimate, so IM is comic accurate too. Marvel adjusted 616 Tony stark to look like RDJ once he was cast as Tony Stark in IM1. So that accuracy should be dead on for modern 616 and Ultimate.

As for the GL movie figures. They are lame, but it's not the likeness and detailing that did it. It's the clear lack of poseability and any real articulation at all. So that's not a fair comparison nor does it speak to the actor likenesses at all. They did have comic accuracy though to the flashpoint GL Corps. Just the articulation is a big deterrant.

It's not 'collecting heart throbs.' It's collecting movie characters as they were portrayed, who the actor is, is moot. It's the same as any alt-universe interpretation of a character that needs visual accuracy(the movies even have their own universe designation in Marvel, you just like to focus on 616 which is the standard normal marvel). So what if it happens to look like so and so. Well, other than Justin Bieber as a marvel hero. Then I might buy it just to melt it and post the video on youtube. Otherwise though, it's about having accuracy as much as we want accuracy to the comics for comic figures.

These are ACTION FIGURES, not dolls. Big difference. They are all toys/collectibles but far different subgenre's of types. The stigma of collecting toys is only in your head too. Others who judge you for it aren't worth your time. It's no different than coin collecting, stamp collecting, model making, baseball cards, comics, precious moments, statues, train enthusiast, or whatever else out there people buy or have as hobbies. If people want to mock you for doing what is legal, not harming anyone, and brings you happiness, screw em, they're bullies then. Who cares if you want to buy Jem, or She-Ra dolls/figures, so long as it makes you happy.

For the record, classic costumed thor and classic costumed Asgard characters don't sell well, or even really meet decent responses from kids, the targeted audience. That's why thor lacked any kind of comic line and had only movie figures. Thor wasn't a line in general that was expected to do well, heck even in theaters they weren't expecting to carry the same punch as captain america a patriotic hero in the summer. You can see this in even the hasbro planning with as few waves as was scheduled. Thor by himself just doesn't have the audience pull in any reality to sustain his own toyline. Cap on the other hand had the entire patriotism thing going for it. Hasbro knows what they are doing.

The thing with hasbro is they are also stuck trying to meet retailer demands. Those villians that sell so well? That data is non-existant and only anecdotal. They sell so well because so few make it into the wild. Even the ones you mentioned like crossbones have more to do with case ratio than amount of figures sold. The issue with retailers though, is they want something to go with a blockbuster, and if hasbro doesn't meet what they want, the retailer just won't order it. The toy market is a constant fluctuating thing with its own set of politics and nuances to navigate.