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Jmacq1 · 12-02-2011, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CLASSIFIED

Hasbro wouldn't be "throwing away money" if they recieved a cut of potential sales in exchange for allowing the Club to borrow the Kwinn tooling for the 13th figure.

A cut of what sales? The entire subscription or just your hypothetical, not-going-to-be-advertised Kwinn that won't be available for sale as an individual figure? How much do you think the subscription is going to cost, when you bear in mind that we're looking at a potential subscribership of at absolute best a couple or three thousand (probably less), vs. the tens of thousands of dollars that an extensively newly-tooled figure like Kwinn costs? The Club would basically have to give ALL their money from the subscriptions to Hasbro in order for Hasbro to not be losing money on the proposition, which defeats the purpose of the subscription service to begin with, unless the Club plans on charging, say, $40 or $50 per figure (they don't).

So no, once again, your scenario doesn't make any business sense.

Furthermore, if Kwinn is the 13th figure - why is the club not advertising him? Is it your position that they're simply utterly incompetent and stupid? Because that would really be the only excuse for tossing aside the potential sales that advertising him would garner.

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Or hey, here's one for you; what if Kwinn turned out to be arctic Kwinn as he appeared in one of the comic stories and the only new tooling the Club borrowed was the head and the rest of Kwinn was a repainted Arctic Snake Eyes?

Certainly you should be able to accept the plausibility of that scenario given they are using Renegades Law's vest with Sure Fire?

No, because a vest/accessory is not a headsculpt. Furthermore, the Law and Order figures for Hasbro were likely produced months ago, meaning Hasbro was "already done" (IE had received a return on their investment) with what they needed the vest for before the Club got to "piggyback" off of it. Kwinn, by comparison, has not made it to production yet...just tooling (because if he was fully produced, Hasbro would be releasing him "on time").

12-02-2011, 07:11 AM	#18
Jmacq1 Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 697	Quote: Originally Posted by CLASSIFIED Hasbro wouldn't be "throwing away money" if they recieved a cut of potential sales in exchange for allowing the Club to borrow the Kwinn tooling for the 13th figure. A cut of what sales? The entire subscription or just your hypothetical, not-going-to-be-advertised Kwinn that won't be available for sale as an individual figure? How much do you think the subscription is going to cost, when you bear in mind that we're looking at a potential subscribership of at absolute best a couple or three thousand (probably less), vs. the tens of thousands of dollars that an extensively newly-tooled figure like Kwinn costs? The Club would basically have to give ALL their money from the subscriptions to Hasbro in order for Hasbro to not be losing money on the proposition, which defeats the purpose of the subscription service to begin with, unless the Club plans on charging, say, $40 or $50 per figure (they don't). So no, once again, your scenario doesn't make any business sense. Furthermore, if Kwinn is the 13th figure - why is the club not advertising him? Is it your position that they're simply utterly incompetent and stupid? Because that would really be the only excuse for tossing aside the potential sales that advertising him would garner. Quote: Or hey, here's one for you; what if Kwinn turned out to be arctic Kwinn as he appeared in one of the comic stories and the only new tooling the Club borrowed was the head and the rest of Kwinn was a repainted Arctic Snake Eyes? Certainly you should be able to accept the plausibility of that scenario given they are using Renegades Law's vest with Sure Fire? No, because a vest/accessory is not a headsculpt. Furthermore, the Law and Order figures for Hasbro were likely produced months ago, meaning Hasbro was "already done" (IE had received a return on their investment) with what they needed the vest for before the Club got to "piggyback" off of it. Kwinn, by comparison, has not made it to production yet...just tooling (because if he was fully produced, Hasbro would be releasing him "on time"). Last edited by Jmacq1; 12-02-2011 at 07:18 AM..