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Originally Posted by Crazy Jetty

No, you can never get a universally agreed "great" movie (Outside of The Dark Knight.)
But it's not unreasonable for people to hope for or expect a Good movie. "Good" being decent plot, decent characterization, and decent writing. In three TF movies, we have not met one of these conditions.
We have seen that this goal is possible. Ironman, Ironman 2, Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, Thor, Spiderman, (New) Star Trek. All are great examples of movies that have managed to be open and inviting to the general public, while pleasing fans.
They all hit the benchmarks of what all movie goers expect from any movie they pay $10+ for. Decent writing, decent characterization, and a decent plot.

Just because someone is a fan of a franchise, and you personally expect said fan to just roll over and happily except a movie that misses the benchmarks everyone universally (whether they're a fan or not) excpects to see from a movie is a virtual slap in the face. And pretty damned insulting.

Star Trek, Star Trek fans picked that movie apart, and were pissed it rebooted everything. Iron Man 2 got mixed reviews. Decent writing, decent characterization, and a decent plot. My argument is it's impossble to do any better then what's has already been done. Since were on Transformers and TMNT, let's stick with them. Do you honestly think they will get any better in the future doing the things you suggested? How many Transformers should be given decent characterization, Hell they just showed up in the old cartoon. Ninja Turtles, we already know what each turtle is like. Say they reboot TF and TMNT even after these movies. Honestly what more can anyone possible do with them, that hasn't already been done.