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Originally Posted by Crazy Jetty

I understand the purpose of repaints. But that doesn't mean they had to choose Black Shadow, and couldn't have gone in other directions, as the mold can work several ways.

I would be hard-pressed to find another character that the Generations Thunderwing could have been just by a new head and deco (besides one that they made up just for that toy).

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As for him not taking the place of another character? Where'd that come from? I never accused him of doing so.

It was implied (maybe unintentionally) by the fact that you said "We get...Black Shadow, but no Sludge or Arcee?"

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That said, I really do get tired of the "Just be thankful it's not..." type of comments.
Why on earth should I be thankful it's one character that doesn't interest me, instead of another character that doesn't interest me? Heck, if this repaint *was* bumblebee, I'd probably be happy with it's utter oddness! lol

Because at least with Sky Shadow, it was an homage to another character (obscure, yes, but still G1 canon). Any Bumblebee redeco is still a Bumblebee toy (except for the odd Cliffjumper toy or Con exclusive). And as you pointed out, we're given more than enough of them as it is. So in this particular case, yes I think all TF collectors should be thankful it wasn't another redeco of a Bumblebee toy (like Super Battle Ops Stealth Nightwatch Blazing Allspark Scanning Cyberfire Scout Bumblebee(R) with Mech Tech Auto-Morph(TM)!, for example). I know I am.

I wasn't suggesting that they take the Thunderwing mold and turn it into Bumblebee. But if they had, then that would be pretty cool and a nice change up from what we've gotten the last five years.

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I question why Hasbro thinks these two are the supersellers they seem to think they are? There was a short spell at the start of the first movie where they were genuinely under produced (Though I had no trouble finding them). And we've been paying for it ever sense. I've no doubt they're the kid favorites (Bumblebee was the *only* transformer to have a toy available through the entire run of G1, from start to finish. 3 years for the original, two for Goldbug, two for the pretender, and one for the actionmaster), but surely the fact 'bee and prime are the worst shelfwarmers in history, due to their over production should be some sort of clue.

I completely agree on what I see as too many Optimus and Bumblebee toys, but apparently they sell better than we think. Otherwise, why would Hasbro keep doing it if they were losing money on it?

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Prime Bumblebee's numbers are just as bad as Prime Prime's. (Goddess I hate they named the series "Prime.")

True, but the Voyager case was an easier example. Also, I'm not a fan of them referring to the deluxe and voyager assortments as a sub-line called "Robots in Disguise" (although, PRiD versus RiD is less confusing than Prime Prime ).