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Originally Posted by Greenskar

Actually, if Hope really is the true host of the Phoenix, Wolverine can't kill her (more on that later)...

...You know what I don't understand? The Phoenix force is destroying planet after planet on its way to Earth...without Hope Summers or any other host support. What's to stop it from destroying Earth if it doesn't get its host? Hope said it best during Uncanny X-Men #11 when she said, (about wolverine) "we agreed that if it all went bad, he should kill me. I told him to be sure. But it hasn't gone bad. Why doesn't anybody trust me?"

And she's right in that context. In the old Dark Phoenix saga Jean was already possessed by the force when she was taken out. Wolverine is jumping the gun big time. He wouldn't even let Blade kill his beloved Jubilee after she became a Vampire (nor would he even entertain the thought of taking Blade's advice to kill her himself). Granted that's not as threatening as a Phoenix it just goes to show how selective in who he's willing to kill and for what reason he is being written.

And I'm sorry but if you gave kid apocalypse a chance you can't tell me you don't give Hope the benefit of the doubt when the Phoenix force is already destroying everything in its path without her. Jean kept it in check long enough to allow herself to be taken out to stop the Phoenix (disintegrated herself by detonating some weapon while on the moon from what i remember). Seems to be the only thing that works. Not to mention that during Morrison's run, Wolverine and Jean were flung jnto the sun, wolverine killed Jean to save her feom suffering...guess what happened? It fully activated her Phoenix Force and ressurected her. It took an electromagnetic pulse from Magneto to kill her. Nice job forgetting that part Logan, after 20 some yrs of mental preparation

Now I don't want people to assume this means I'm not enjoying the event, I just wanted to acknowledge that while this maybe the equivalent of a typical summer popcorn flick it sucks to see the characters taken out of character from the development seen in their solo or team books just for the sake of the event.

I think the idea is that the Avengers want to take her off earth because (ideally) the pheonix force would change course to follow her.

And I think the problem is that Wolverine's an established enough character that writers can fall back on outdated characterizations and most of us don't even know the difference. As much as I love the current X-force, it was strange that Wolvie was doing all that while chastizing Cyke for having a similar philosophy. I guess the difference was that Cyke was forcing the kids into it, and he was only taking the willing?

I kinda lost hope for this event when ***SPOILERS**** Cap decided the only way to discipline Wolverine was to jump him and throw him out of a plane, not like anyone had been acting rationally uptil then anyway....