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Originally Posted by Torn Prince

First of all, we have no idea where the prison is, as its never said. Bruce is very intelligent and very resourceful, more so than your average man. A normal man could never do the things Bruce Wayne has done, which is why I never questioned him getting back into Gotham without getting shot. You forget the guy was trained as a ninja after all, ninjas can pretty much do whatever the hell they want.

Your portrayal of ninjas compared to your "nolan realism films" are worlds apart. Ninjas are no where resourceful enough to get from one side of the world to the other within 1 day "realisticly". And the fact that the location of the prison was never released was clearly on nolan's shoulders for not specifying. It was a deliberate skip over to push batman into the city within such a short time frame. And, to point out a fact, the setting and the environment clearly shows the prison is in the eastern hemisphere. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to put that together. Plus, in all the incidents involving ras al ghul without batman's involvment took place in the eastern hemisphere. Now with your idea for bruce wayne is clearly the comic version. This is the cinematic batman and he is not the same person. All of batman's resources and detective work in the cinematic world all come from Mr. Fox. Batman does not do any type of detective work without the aid of Mr. Fox. The progress from BB to the TDKR rises still shows he has not peaked to the point of being the master detective. Assumtions made on what batman can do cannot be based on who he was in the comics. In the films, everything he can do is solely based on the previous films. Especially since he has done nothing for 8 years.

I understand your nostalgia for batman is part of your reasoning but dont get the comic batman and cinematic batman mixed up. In the movie world, you are telling a story to the entire world, not just aimed at your fanbase via comics/cartoons. In the movie verse, you have to explain everything and why things happened and do it more precisely especially if you made events transpire in 2 previous films. The film world is a whole different monster and judged entirely on a different scale. In terms of story as a whole, yes TDKR was great. In terms of how the story was told, thats where TDKR failed. (if that made sense)


In short, you are like saying the Amazing spiderman is a split image of the comic spiderman when it is clearly not. Same goes with TDKR, This is not the same batman portrayed in the comics my friend.