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Originally Posted by MGTAJ

I think you might have misunderstood. I think his point was that Vision uses the same mold/buck as the old-style Dare-Devil figure which was "retired". But, seeing as the Spidey they use for filler uses the older buck (compared to the newer buck available) it shouldn't be a problem to re-use the older mold

Yes it is be a problem when one of those molds is retired while the other is not. The v1 Spider-Man mold was never retired, so it's still technically available for use (even for doing additional runs of Fury Files #32), though I don't know why Hasbro would make additional runs of that particular figure, considering the packaging itself is over four years old now. My guess is that Hasbro and/or the factory still had some in the warehouse from previous runs that they're now using for filler in the newer cases.

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Originally Posted by gunzilla

I think a lot of people are confused on what is a mold. While Daredevil and Spiderman have a similar buck they are not the same mold. Daredevil and Vision use the same body mold.

Exactly. And practically EVERYBODY complained about how much that mold sucked and how Hasbro should stop using it to the point that Hasbro actually listened and announced they retired the mold. Of course, any other figures using the mold that were already too far along in development at the time still got released (including the translucent variant of Vision).

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Originally Posted by Jackieboy

they could always use the archangel mold for vision and give him a different paint job.

FWIW, I'd be fine with them using the current DD mold as long as Vision got a new figure. I hated his original mold anyway. Of course, I'd love to have the original to complete my HAMMER series, but unless I hit up the secondary market, that ain't happening.

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Originally Posted by Iceman

I guess I've always just thought of buck/mold as the same thing. Don't just have a standard base they use for a lot figures and then add a little variation here and there. Like how a lot of the larger figures use most all the same parts with either different paint or minor tweaks?

No problem. Those two terms get used interchangeably a lot, especially when you're dealing with more than one manufacturer. For example, Mattel likes to use buck, while Hasbro uses mold. To me, "buck" refers to the overall design/engineering of a given figure. Mold itself refers to the sum total of all of the actual parts that make up a particular figure or series of figures (minor alterations/accessories aside).