[Shin Densetsu]

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Originally Posted by CMIII

Shin the problem is when his answers are insulting. I just wish he would Admit he doesn't know the DC Fans and thats why they failed. I do not see where this is going to work in Mattels Favor. They couldn't get the collectors to buy the 4H style figures that Most of us would have bought without the club, How can they think that the T/H line will sell at the same price when the same customers do not want them. I'm not a Marketing genius but even I can see this is going to go Horrible.

I also want to say that as long as 4H is sculpting MOTU and Movie Master this is a huge slap in the face.

I don't think 1 party/individual is solely to blame but I think it's multiple parties. Retail buyers ultimately are the ones that greenlight what Mattel will produce and ship to their stores. Sometimes these retail buyers and the corporate guys they work for only care about sales. Unfortunately for us, the fans who mainly buy this stuff, sometimes it's not financially viable to produce what we want if noone but us will buy them. I'm not blaming us, the fans. There are several DC characters I would've instantly bought had they made it to retail. I'm happy that some were finally made(Azbats).

However there is a very big difference between what we see and what retail buyers see. Walmart's retail buyers may just see that Batman and Superman sell. We obviously know this isn't always true otherwise Batman Begins/Dark Knight/Dark Knight Rises stuff wouldn't have made it to the discount bins by the bucketfull.

To a guy like me, there's no reason AT ALL why Ras Al Ghul couldn't have been made as far back as the DCSH line. He didn't even show up in DCUC, DC All Stars or even Batman Unlimited which would've been perfect for him. Instead he was an online exclusive.

Where are the Movie Masters Chris Reed Superman, Michael Keaton Batman? Where are my League OF Assassin's ninjas and ninja training Christian Bale Bruce Wayne?

To me the Mattel/4H DC experience has been one of great but unused potential. It could've been so much more. In a way I also think that what it became, was a mass produced line that tried to cater to us but couldn't fit the mass market retail environment. Maybe there simply just aren't enough of us to foot the bill. For example, there is no way in hell I am going to pay $30+ shipping for the Super Powers Batman and Superman. As much as I like the deco and card art, I already have the DCSH/DCUC molds of both and I paid way less. I don't think this makes me, nor any other fan who feels the same, a cheap ass but I think it just goes to show, maybe this toyline just doesn't fit the current financial climate either.

I think we have it right by declaring what we want. That's where demand comes from. No kids know DC as much as us older fans and the 6" 4H DC lines are what catered to us. Also it would help is retail buyers saw eye to eye with us.

Otherwise we are just going to continue to see the stuff we want made as expensive online exclusives.