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BlackRazor · 11-05-2015, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

Okay, this convo really took a turn for the weird.

First of all, this isn't about being sexy or not. Being sexy is okay.

Slave Leia is not about being sexy. It's about subjugation, humiliation, and degradation. That's not sexy, that's sexual assault. The entire premise of that outfit is it's without consent. It's about coercion. That's sexual assault. That's what makes her choking Jabba with the chain satisfying as the ending turn on the outfit's history. It is her not letting herself be a victim and using those same shackles to strangle him with. The very ones Jabba tried to demean and hold her down with.

No one is talking about rewriting star wars or changing it. The 6 movies released as they are now will stay as they are now. This is about merchandise moving forward.

There is a difference between story and merchandising. The story as it stands as a piece of art across several movies as a saga is staying as it is, and will grow as the next 3 films develop the aftermath of the previous 6 for this overall universe.

No one is retconning what's already been put to film. This is only about the merchandise itself.

Though that's a very good point about Anakin and it is easily overlooked because of how it's played up for comedic ends with Wattoo. It won't be retconned, but I don't think they'll be making a point of that ever on any future young Anakin figures on the card back bio. It is part of his character history as much as the metal bikini is part of Leia's, but that also doesn't mean it has to define him or her either. It is one moment of their past that they escaped from to show it gets better and that they can still be strong willed complicated characters with complicated histories and actions all of their own. There are also mild questions about Anakin and Amidala's relationship itself because of their age difference to when she got pregnant and no one knowing for certain how old he was then considering she met him when he was a kid.

But yeah, let's make this clear real quick. No one is talking about changing the movies as they stand now. No one is talking about a reboot and changing it all. This is only about the merchandising end.

That's why she's dressed that way. It's what this domino could lead to, I've already heard people ask why do cheerleaders have to wear short skirts to cheer on men in their games? Is that where we're headed to as a society, if some don't like something, we get rid of it? Some of you may be right about this one but things like this never end with just one issue. Moving forward, do filmmakers make scenes more G or PG like just so nobody is offended?

11-05-2015, 06:48 AM	#54
BlackRazor Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 548	Quote: Originally Posted by Snowflakian Okay, this convo really took a turn for the weird. First of all, this isn't about being sexy or not. Being sexy is okay. Slave Leia is not about being sexy. It's about subjugation, humiliation, and degradation. That's not sexy, that's sexual assault. The entire premise of that outfit is it's without consent. It's about coercion. That's sexual assault. That's what makes her choking Jabba with the chain satisfying as the ending turn on the outfit's history. It is her not letting herself be a victim and using those same shackles to strangle him with. The very ones Jabba tried to demean and hold her down with. No one is talking about rewriting star wars or changing it. The 6 movies released as they are now will stay as they are now. This is about merchandise moving forward. There is a difference between story and merchandising. The story as it stands as a piece of art across several movies as a saga is staying as it is, and will grow as the next 3 films develop the aftermath of the previous 6 for this overall universe. No one is retconning what's already been put to film. This is only about the merchandise itself. Though that's a very good point about Anakin and it is easily overlooked because of how it's played up for comedic ends with Wattoo. It won't be retconned, but I don't think they'll be making a point of that ever on any future young Anakin figures on the card back bio. It is part of his character history as much as the metal bikini is part of Leia's, but that also doesn't mean it has to define him or her either. It is one moment of their past that they escaped from to show it gets better and that they can still be strong willed complicated characters with complicated histories and actions all of their own. There are also mild questions about Anakin and Amidala's relationship itself because of their age difference to when she got pregnant and no one knowing for certain how old he was then considering she met him when he was a kid. But yeah, let's make this clear real quick. No one is talking about changing the movies as they stand now. No one is talking about a reboot and changing it all. This is only about the merchandising end. That's why she's dressed that way. It's what this domino could lead to, I've already heard people ask why do cheerleaders have to wear short skirts to cheer on men in their games? Is that where we're headed to as a society, if some don't like something, we get rid of it? Some of you may be right about this one but things like this never end with just one issue. Moving forward, do filmmakers make scenes more G or PG like just so nobody is offended? Last edited by BlackRazor; 11-05-2015 at 06:50 AM..