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Universe · 02-16-2016, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ArsGratiaArtis

The relative quality of Star Wars toys has little to no bearing on Dwight Stall's alleged desire to crush our scale not being evidenced at all in his tenure with that brand. If he was so determined to rid the world of 1:18 you'd think he'd have done something about it when in charge of one of the biggest 1:18 brands. And yet, no 6" GI Joe, no 6" Star Wars until well after his stewardship.

And sales seem to be doing just fine post-Vonner. The line is still going, so retailers are still buying it enough to justify its production. It's selling well enough that retailers have enough confidence to pick up Comic Packs as an expansion of it again, something that the end of Vonner's run did no favors. Do you have any evidence beyond anecdotal to support a decline in sales post-Vonner?

I don't know what you collect or what kind of collector you are (MOC/loose) but that does bear a lot in this discussion. I'm a loose collector so key things like articulation is a selling point. If you fill all the major chains with 5 POA, a collector like me will scoff at the sight of it. If you fill it with 3.75 Black series Ren, Rey, Finn then I wouldn't. But you see, I don't see these at my walmarts. Same with the past two waves of Marvel Infinite. Last wave I got was sandman/beast wave. Nothing new at retail, why!? Because they removed the peg space for Legends. Why? Because the Infinite waves are 6 months apart, wave 2 was a myth outside of eBay/BBTS. They pump out Legend waves in weeks between the Spiderman series/Movie series/ Comic series

Just now are we seeing a new wave after what feels like ages Trust me, I'm glad we have SOMETHiNG. Considering I had to get my last two waves online, it shows a MAJOR decline in our line even being present in stores. You like Dwight, I get it. He's made Legends the hottest thing in stores for Marvel collectors, be happy. But please don't think he's on our side. UKMU has already noted his disdain for the line. There is no argument that can support his favor in us. The sheer amount of Legend reveals alone (and more to come) should tell you that versus our one reveal, Agent 13.

Sum up my argument:
Loss of articulation, production (sparsed out waves), and introduction of 6" Legend accessories, 2.5" line, Mashers, Titans, and soon to be marvel Barbies, we can see why our line is cutout of the party. They have focused on other things.

02-16-2016, 01:10 AM	#22074
Universe Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 984	Quote: Originally Posted by ArsGratiaArtis The relative quality of Star Wars toys has little to no bearing on Dwight Stall's alleged desire to crush our scale not being evidenced at all in his tenure with that brand. If he was so determined to rid the world of 1:18 you'd think he'd have done something about it when in charge of one of the biggest 1:18 brands. And yet, no 6" GI Joe, no 6" Star Wars until well after his stewardship. And sales seem to be doing just fine post-Vonner. The line is still going, so retailers are still buying it enough to justify its production. It's selling well enough that retailers have enough confidence to pick up Comic Packs as an expansion of it again, something that the end of Vonner's run did no favors. Do you have any evidence beyond anecdotal to support a decline in sales post-Vonner? I don't know what you collect or what kind of collector you are (MOC/loose) but that does bear a lot in this discussion. I'm a loose collector so key things like articulation is a selling point. If you fill all the major chains with 5 POA, a collector like me will scoff at the sight of it. If you fill it with 3.75 Black series Ren, Rey, Finn then I wouldn't. But you see, I don't see these at my walmarts. Same with the past two waves of Marvel Infinite. Last wave I got was sandman/beast wave. Nothing new at retail, why!? Because they removed the peg space for Legends. Why? Because the Infinite waves are 6 months apart, wave 2 was a myth outside of eBay/BBTS. They pump out Legend waves in weeks between the Spiderman series/Movie series/ Comic series Just now are we seeing a new wave after what feels like ages Trust me, I'm glad we have SOMETHiNG. Considering I had to get my last two waves online, it shows a MAJOR decline in our line even being present in stores. You like Dwight, I get it. He's made Legends the hottest thing in stores for Marvel collectors, be happy. But please don't think he's on our side. UKMU has already noted his disdain for the line. There is no argument that can support his favor in us. The sheer amount of Legend reveals alone (and more to come) should tell you that versus our one reveal, Agent 13. Sum up my argument: Loss of articulation, production (sparsed out waves), and introduction of 6" Legend accessories, 2.5" line, Mashers, Titans, and soon to be marvel Barbies, we can see why our line is cutout of the party. They have focused on other things. Last edited by Universe; 02-16-2016 at 01:17 AM..