[Trivial Psychic]

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Originally Posted by Weapon X

I agree 100%. Sony is freaking whack.

Just to give you an idea of the insane things Sony had planned for the Spider-Man franchise before Marvel took over, they actually mentioned (in one of their leaked email exchanges) that Jared Leto would make a fantastic Felicia Hardy (did they want Black Cat to be transgendered?...WTF?) and that Denzel Washington, Will Smith, and George Clooney should be kept in mind for the role of Dr. Octopus, as well as Channing Tatum, who was already their front runner for Venom. Fantastic actors...but none of them are Doc Ock...

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Originally Posted by SymbiSpidey

Didn't they say that Venom has nothing to do with the MCU or the new Spider-Man? That seems silly to me.

This is where the rhetoric from the producer in the recent interview left me concerned. He mentioned Deadpool and Logan as great characters who pulled off great stories and spin-off films without resorting to relying on cameo appearances or even a running narrative featuring other characters.

Here's the problem though, without Spidey, Venom is not a strong enough character to carry out his own narratives. Wolverine and Deadpool are. I'm an admittedly biased Venom fan, but even I believe that to be the case. There are years and years of cancelled books and poorly written miniseries that support this. You will be hard pressed to find any Venom story arc that was entertaining on its own merits without Spider-Man being involved. And before anyone says "Maximum Carnage" as a standalone Venom flick, remember that by the time that ran it's course, Venom had teamed up with Spidey and several other street level heroes, as well as members of the Avengers. Carnage is a certifiable A-Lister villian, and it would have to be a two or three film act honestly. Some creepy CGI and some blood splattering on the walls simply wouldn't cut it (and I am not a Carnage fan...just recognizing the truths.) Trying to tie it up all neatly in one film WILL give you another Spiderman 3, or something far worse...just bloodier or more violent.

That's not to say that it's not possible to do a good Venom flick. I saw a fan film a few years back by Adi Shankar (who directed the fan films for the Punisher featuring Thomas Jane called "Dirty Laundry, as well as the controversial Power Rangers re-imagining a few years back,) called "Truth in Journalism," which told the story of newly-merged with-the-symbiote Eddie Brock working with some film students on a journalism documentary, as he plotted his revenge on Spidey and struggles with the voices in his head as well as the Symbiote's murderous influences. It featured some nice nods to events in the books, while keeping true to the character and telling an interesting story of the descent into Brock's psychosis as he struggles to keep his old life and new life in balance.

Would I see that movie in theatres? Bet your ass I would.

Here's the link if anyone is interested...

https://youtu.be/7YDYL6oECjU

E-zine Dorkly also recently put out a story about the leaked Sony emails, as well as future Spider-Man and Venom ideas they were pitching before the Marvel agreement, which can be checked out here for those of you who have the interest. Pretty much the gist of the leaked emails are posted there...

6 Bizarre, Forgotten Revelations From The Andrew Garfield Spider-Man Movies - Dorkly Post