[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by GizmoTron

Even a body builder could be knocked out if the weights he normally lifts with ease fall right on top of him, especially if caught off guard. So even if those numbers for Namor are accurate, it was still possible that the blow was enough to take him down long enough to count.

Face it, the only fight that didn't work in that series was Lobo vs. Wolverine, where even the writers had to put the outcome off panel to make it work. Everything else makes sense or can be explained easily enough.

The numbers are right; 2,000 lbs equals 1 ton, adult male orcas range in weight between 8,000 - 12,000 lbs (with a maximum weight in the wild being recorded at 20,000 lbs), and a combination of OHMU/Marvel Encyclopedia/online-resource stats and various updates over the years that have all listed Namor as being exactly that strong.

Your comparison of Namor to 'human' bodybuilders is a poor choice (IMO) in that you haven't considered Namor's superhuman endurance and resistance to injury. High caliber bullets deflect off of him and I've personally consumed comics in which he's shrugged off mortar fire. Additionally, not only does he survive the rigors of high oceanic pressure, I've read comics in which he's casually endured Marianas level depths while floating within feet of an underwater volcano. Suffice it to say, he's pretty damn tough. Anyone capable of having pitched "fist fights" with Thor, Hercules, and the Hulk is likely to be unfazed by such a meager (comparably) attack.

I'm not sure what I need to "face" regarding those cross-over events. They were pretty widely panned, with only the staunchest of fan-boys/girls (on either side) taking them seriously. Just as a 'for instance,' let's look at the Juggs vs Supes match-up. I'm by no means a Juggs fan. In fact , I'm much more invested in the character of Superman given that he's a childhood favorite of mine (what can I say, he appeals to the corny 'boy-scout' in me). However, being a fan of Clark, I know his second weakness is magic. Cyttorak and his gem (Juggs by extension, obviously) represent some very potent Marvel magic easily on par with DC's Philospher Stone, Nabu's Helmet of Fate, the Spear of Destiny, etc. Juggs, or any magical heavy-weight (Thor, Beta-Ray, Herc, the Destroyer), should present serious problems to Supes. We've seen this with Etrigan and Captain Marvel...