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Originally Posted by Boy Blunder

I think a lot of the complaining, as evidenced by some people in this thread, comes from people not even knowing anything about Gwenpool before they start lighting into the concept. Yes, it spun out of a variant cover thing, that's true. But that seems to be the only thing people who haven't even given the series a shot know about her.

- She's not an alternate Gwen Stacy, despite her design's origins being from the 'Gwen version of heroes' cover event Marvel did. Her real name is Gwen Poole.
- Hence, she's also not connected to Deadpool (hell, she mentions that she doesn't even like his brand of humor all that much) - the name and costume come from her getting a costume made on the quick by a tailor who thought her name (Gwen Poole) was actually her superhero name (Gwenpool), and given all the guys running around in Deadpool costumes at the time (the Mercs for Money), just rolled with it.
- Her fourth-wall humor, likewise, isn't the same as Deadpool's, because hers is intentionally meta, due to being a comics reader from (an approximation of) the real world. It's a lot less "hey, this reminds me of issue number 77, remember that?" and a lot more "because of how comics works, I can actually call out this backgrounder's name and it'll give them a certain amount of protection from the events currently happening because now they're a recurring character". So a hell of a lot less 'let's be wacky because we're Deadpool!'

I'm sad that the book is ending (yes, ending - unlike the other books coming to a close soon, the writer hasn't actually said the book was cancelled, AND it's closing out on #25, a milestone issue, not some random mid-run issue, not to mention that it's actually getting an ending, for pete's sake), but it was an actually fun comic, which is in such short supply in a comic industry. It was parody like "The Orville" is a parody of Star Trek (IE in a way that's more loving than lambasting), had serious stakes, character growth, a relatable protagonist when you actually read about her backstory and motivations, and... Jesus Christ, it had Batroc as a regular supporting character. A longtime jobber actually getting some spotlight outside of a single Captain America story! How about that, huh?

I don't think Gwenpool failed, tbh, because it made it to the two-year mark, which a lot of comics right now, especially Marvel books and definitely new-character Marvel books, can't seem to get to. Which means it found an audience who loved it long enough for Marvel to give it a sendoff, rather than a mid-run cut. We're losing a number of books with more established titles and characters, some before they even hit their first/second year mark, but Gwenpool did something right enough for Marvel to keep it around until a proper finishing point. So that's gotta count for a lot.



W-o-o-o-w. Lotta ignorance of the character here. I'm not going to try and sway you, since your mind is already made up, but I am gonna nitpick one point here.

Gwen has as much reason to be in a Spider-Man wave as Misty Knight, or White Tiger, Daredevil, Moon Knight, or Ghost Rider. Or Ares in a Thor wave. or Death's Head II in a GotG wave (Hell, more reason than that last one). She's interacted with Deadpool on one, maybe two instances, while she's had a number of stories with Miles Morales, both in her own book and over in Champions (maybe more, I don't know) Heck, the lines seem to be tailored to certain characters - Spider-Man waves often also include street-level and non-Avengers characters (though now that we're getting some Defenders/Marvel Knights waves, that may change a bit), GotG waves often include general cosmic characters, X-Men waves can include pretty much anyone under the mighty mutant umbrella (unless they're anchored to a different hero/title), etc etc.

And worthless gimmick, huh? She got a figure, and Spider-Ham is still in action figure limbo. Go figure. But hey, either way, here's an idea - we know you don't like a lot of the newer characters. Like, we all know. So just avoid them, and avoid the conversations about them, and it'll relieve everyone of a ton of stress, huh? It's like I already posted, "It's okay to not like things, just don't be a dick about it."

And please, don't use the word bimbo. It's just not cool. It's really not. Grow up a little.



Agreed. It would be like the old Mego lines, except less fun.

Her tailor making her look like Deadpool may be the kayfabe reason, but the reason in OUR WORLD is to snag some of that sweet, sweet Deadpool merchandising money.

ANYWAYS!

Hoping we see a new Future Foundation Spidey on the pizza Spidey buck eventually...