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lordbest
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Aesthetic functionalism (a hugely complex and contradictory philosophy) broadly states that an objects aesthetic value is derived from how well it functions. You are arguing that the function of the superhero costume is to convey superheroics, and that it should be judged solely on that criteria. That is a functionalist argument. The contradiction is that you are putting forward a functionalist argument, while attacking functionalism.
If by "made up" you mean I sat down and thought about the sort of things I like and why I like them, then yes. That is the very essence of aesthetic appreciation. Figuring out what we like and why. No, they are not bound to the truths of the object, because we aren't dealing with objects. We are talking about a costume, that appears in a comic book. Not only is the object not real, how it is depicted varies from year to year and artist to artist even what is ostensibly the same costume.
Nothing in my priorities refers to what separates it from the general populace because that isn't a valid concern, I think superheroes are characters not costumes. In the comic series where this costume debuts the character is working as a detective, standing out from the general populace is not something she wants or needs to do. Another reason why your claim to objectivity is silly when you do not even understand the intended function of the object yourself yet claim to have an perfectly objective opinion of it.
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My reply would then be that if you were to only evaluate in terms of your personal preferences, then you can only say that you personally think that the costume satisfies those particular criterion, nothing more.
YES. EXACTLY. That is literally what I and others who like the costume are saying. We like it, because to us it is better than the old one. We are not claiming it is objectively better, because objectivity is impossible. You are claiming we are wrong, we are not claiming you are wrong.
In my opinion this costume is better for the character, yes. In my opinion, based on my criteria and preferences. Your criteria and preferences differ, so you have come to a different conclusion, because taste is subjective. The difference here is that you are telling me I am wrong, and citing the very subjectivity you claim does not exist as proof of my being wrong.
Yes, they did become the language of superhero costumes, they weren't always though, and they aren't universally. That language, like all language, is changing and adapting as the tastes of the user (in this case the comic reader) change.
I'm not going to reply again, this is getting ridiculous and it's become sadly apparent that your knowledge of Aesthetics is insufficient to actually have an informed discussion about why your statement that taste is objective is utterly and demonstrably false.
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