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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

@Ramen

That's Bagley's art, right?

Correct, the panel's from 2018's "Venom: First Host #1".

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

Given his tenure with Spidey, I guess I can accept this as the new normal for Venom. I do remember, now that you've mentioned it, the visible eyes in some illustrations, but it wasn't consistently drawn - especially in T-Bolts.

Ah yes, Thunderbolts - I will never forget this monstrosity

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

I used to also distinguish the two by the jagged borders that outline the white-eye design of the cowl. However, in that Bagley pic (if that's indeed his art) there is a degree of jaggedness (word?) that would lead me to believe it's Mac...

So confused...

The "eyes" (I just call the white spots that) sometimes have more jagged edges on Brock, sometimes less. They look almost clean in stuff like Lethal Protector but then explode in Maximum Carnage.

I probably wouldn't be able to differentiate Eddie and Mac just by that. Especially since as you guys noted, the Mac Gargan Venom doesn’t always have the human-like eyes within the white spots.

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd

The spider is the more reliable distinction, Eddie's spider has always been contained and more or less the same shape while Mac's is jagged and sprawling (except for when he slims down and pretends to be Spidey for the Dark Avengers). Even then I'm generalizing since in books where the Thunderbolts would guest star during Dark Reign (like their guest spot in Moon Knight's book) Mac appeared near identical to Eddie as Venom. The eyes within the white aren't always reliable either since during Deodato's run on Thunderbolts he often drew Mac without them and whoever was on coloring just made them appear brighter or glowing at the fronts but there were no separate eyes in the white.

That’s probably the best way to actually distinguish them, yes.