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Originally Posted by Nimrod

Well heck, For being the Lord of the underworld, he isn't that tough if street fighter level heroes such as Spidey, DD, Punisher, Wolvy & Black Panther have beaten him. I personally don't care for the character but for those of you that do, I don't see him coming in any other way but as a BAF or deluxe release.

LOL Yeah, I got the fact that you don't care for the characters.

A couple of quick things: Spider Man might occasionally fight some petty street level foes, severely and perpetually pulling his punches in the process, but his powers elevate him far above "street level" to the point of making his characterization as such a popular misnomer - a misnomer that the Superior Spider Man story demonstrated to be a fallacy. He has super-human speed, agility, durability and strength (just as strong as 3/4 of your coveted Wrecking Crew - I guess they are also "street level" villains) all of which allow him to achieve feats like confounding an entire X-men team singlehandedly in the pages of the original Secret Wars, or defeating Thunderball - while he was in possession of the Wrecker's crowbar - in one-on-one combat in his own book.

Daredevil was able to defeat Blackheart shortly after his "birth" with the aid of Spider Man who provided the super-powered muscle. However, IIRC, their victory, as with most demonic encounters, was more so attributed to the pureness of their souls than force of hand and Blackheart's "newness" to the plane.

Ghost Rider, Wolverine, and Punisher fought Blackheart together in The Hearts of Darkness one shot.

You may not be very familiar with the Black Panther as he has been written in the 616. His powers may put him more in line with a Wolverine-type (marginally super-powered), however, his mind and the technological resources of the most advanced society of humans on the planet elevate him far, far beyond. He defeated Mephisto via preparation and mobilizing the technology and brilliance of his Wakandan scientists to cut off Mephisto from the source of his power.

There are a lot of Marvel stories out there man. Check them out, you might like a few.