Integration

Jester · 01-21-2022, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony_Bacala

At first I preferred the ball joins for ankles and wrists on paper anyway, but for whatever reason I do have trouble getting them how I want them in action. This is not McFarlane specific, the tech for joints is a pain in the ass and a decision they all make with pros/cons for each.

To each his own. I vastly prefer the additional range of movement that McFarlane's wrist/ankle joints provide (there are certain angles that you're never going to achieve with Hasbro-style X-axis only/Y-axis only wrists). Plus, they've been the standard in the 12" world for decades now, so manipulating them is second nature to me.

I'd also much rather have to futz with a McFarlane-style ankle joint for a few seconds longer than be stuck one of the approximately 50% of all Hasbro 1/12th-scale figures that are crippled by the absence of calf-swivels, like movie Deadpool, who is such a beautiful sculpt and yet is so frustrating to pose because any really deep stances inevitably end up looking extremely wonky (not to mention precarious) thanks to the inexplicable lack of calf swivels on that figure (even though his calves are actually separate pieces to begin with).

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Originally Posted by Tony_Bacala

Really, if current tech from any company is all that's available - I think I'd choose what Mattel is doing on their Masterverse line for MOTU. Good balance of visuals and functionality.

Examples: Masters of the Universe Masterverse Wave 1 – Revelation – In Hand Gallery!

Pretty sure the Masterverse figures' feet are articulated exactly the same way as any current Hasbro figures. The ankle pin might be inserted in the foot at a slightly shallower angle, but that's about the only possible distinction I can think of.

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Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

I'm okay with ball joints for wrists and ankles, but the ratchets/notches that McFarlane uses hinder posability as much as they may provide stability.

I've only noticed this on the "White Knight" Azrael figure.

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Originally Posted by firmpulse

Nopers. Hasbro's GI Joe Classified has the best articulation scheme on any 1/12th figure on the market today. Todd's BS ugly as sin ball "hey look! I'm a joint and don't blend in to any figure and am damn near impossible to use" joint results in a figure without the ability to stand flat footed AND rotate. It sucks.

LOL no.

For one thing, Todd's figure's aren't 1/12th scale (except the Warhammer line, arguably).

For another, "Classified's" theoretically very good articulation scheme tends to come up short in reality via a number of failings: floppy feet (or feet rendered almost immobile by those stupid shin-guards that every other character seems to be stuck with), floppy waist joints, floppy elevator hips, torso articulation almost entirely canceled out by the included vests and harnesses (Flint's armoured LBV is a particularly atrocious example), hands with the wrist articulation in the reverse of the expected order (so Duke, Flint and Snake Eyes have pistol holsters on their right legs but come with right hands that turn on the X-axis while their lefts turn on the Y). McFarlane is much more consistent, I've found, particularly with regard to quality control. I've never yet had to pre-boil a McFig whereas this is something I have to do for virtually every Hasbro figure I purchase.

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Originally Posted by Designincase

Valaverse Action Force figures take the throne at their price point.
It takes all that works about Gi Joe at the moment and makes it better. More range and smoother joints.

Very true.

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Originally Posted by Designincase

It makes what Mcfarlane's attempts kinda a joke. There's no technical reason Mcfarlanes figures can't have the range of articulation with the clean looking joints. That Mcfarlane does more sculpting makes that worse.

Not so much.

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Originally Posted by snake5289

Meh. Only future Batman I care about is Beyond.

Shriek might be my favourite DC figure that McFarlane has produced to date. I love how they three-dimensionalized the original (very vague) design into something more textured and detailed but still fitting the smooth-lined "Beyond" aesthetic.

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Originally Posted by Raine24

A figure should be taken out of the "smooth joints" ranking when they have to be boiled before play so they don't literally snap in half, imo.

Hasbro should honestly issue the same warnings that Vala has, IMO.

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Originally Posted by firmpulse

VV figs 10 bucks more and the character designs are basic.

No, they're not "basic." They simply don't fall prey to that overdesigned "4K Ultra-HD" aesthetic that "Classified" suffers from, where every figure's costume has to have eight different textures sculpted on it because reasons.

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Originally Posted by Raine24

And you know your Classified money is at least partially going to good peeps like Lenny and Emily, while your VV cash is going straight to Baron Bear Douche Grudge Holder, Keeper of Years Old Comment Printouts :/

I see it the other way around. I know my Valaverse money is going to support an independent business rather than a faceless, top-heavy mega-corporation.

And really, at this point, I am waaaaaaaaay more irritated by people griping about Vala than whatever feud Vala happens to be pursuing at the moment. It's not hard to find douchebags in this hobby (hello Justin Bell, Michael Crawford, Dan Larson, Michael French, Junkman, etc). As long as Bobby keeps his line rolling I could care less about the background drama.

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Originally Posted by Raine24

I play with my toys, so a bath is not just an inconvenience but a deal breaker. Not even my NECA have had to go through all that.

All of my NECA figures have had to go through that. And then sometimes they break anyway.

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Originally Posted by Jeddostotle7

Huh? What twist?

That's kind of my point.

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Originally Posted by deecee4

Wait, hes supposed to be a black guy? I didnt pick up on that from the artwork...only noticed that theres a resemblance to Michael Keaton. If it were me, I would've based it on Michael Jai White but whatever.

The artwork does look weirdly like a black Michael Keaton.

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Originally Posted by Designincase

If you own a Marvel Legends figure, you have 90% of a Valaverse experience.

QFT.

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Originally Posted by zonedweeby

as if Bruce Wayne is an indelible character with dimensions and depth

even he knows he doesn't have a personality and that's why he hits his motif harder than any other comic book character in history

As if making him black is going to change that.

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