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TheBlueMarvel · 06-20-2022, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GizmoTron

The first ToyBiz figure does represent that early X-Factor era Apocalypse very well, he didn't quite beef up in size and stature until the Jim Lee era got a hold of him (which is represented well by the second ToyBiz figure and literally every Apocalypse figure since).

But unlike say Sabretooth, I don't see them ever making a skinny 1st appearance mold for Apocalypse, but instead maybe sometime repainting this one comic blue inaccuracies and all. If even that, most BAFs and larger figures usually get two runs at best and Apocalypse is technically already on version 3.0 now.

Those early Toy Biz figs were all over the place as far as proportions are concerned and I don't put much stock in any deliberative intentionality beyond costume exactness and broad-stroke stylization. To boot, Guice's FA Xfactor #5 initial art quickly gave way to Simonson's interpretation, which, at the time, was also all over the place as Walter always had more of an interpretive style that followed few rubrics. However, by issue 25 of Xfactor: Fall of the Mutants, Simonson's cover demonstrates he had already exponentially increased the base-size of the heavyweight antagonist making him a veritable small-giant without altering his stature to massive extremes. But I take your point (and Kain's) regarding heavy musculature, but, again, that's a subjective interpretation of an artist that was, conservatively speaking, 'loose' in his proportionality for many characters.

But none of this has much bearing on Hasbro's tendencies and I agree that, despite the Lizard outlier, Hasbro isn't going to create a new sculpt to cobble a svelte human sized FA Apocalypse. In fact, the details that I pointed out that are idiosyncratic to the character as Simonson illustrated him are a powerful indication, to me, that a quick redraft with the corrected color palette will follow shortly after this XTAS/Retro release. That and Hasbro's unerringly consistent return to familiar wells.

Get ready for a 4.0 Apocalypse.

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TheBlueMarvel MarvelLegends/DCUniverse Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: On the metaphysical plane of celestial BOOM BAP! Posts: 6,021	Quote: Originally Posted by GizmoTron The first ToyBiz figure does represent that early X-Factor era Apocalypse very well, he didn't quite beef up in size and stature until the Jim Lee era got a hold of him (which is represented well by the second ToyBiz figure and literally every Apocalypse figure since). But unlike say Sabretooth, I don't see them ever making a skinny 1st appearance mold for Apocalypse, but instead maybe sometime repainting this one comic blue inaccuracies and all. If even that, most BAFs and larger figures usually get two runs at best and Apocalypse is technically already on version 3.0 now. Those early Toy Biz figs were all over the place as far as proportions are concerned and I don't put much stock in any deliberative intentionality beyond costume exactness and broad-stroke stylization. To boot, Guice's FA Xfactor #5 initial art quickly gave way to Simonson's interpretation, which, at the time, was also all over the place as Walter always had more of an interpretive style that followed few rubrics. However, by issue 25 of Xfactor: Fall of the Mutants, Simonson's cover demonstrates he had already exponentially increased the base-size of the heavyweight antagonist making him a veritable small-giant without altering his stature to massive extremes. But I take your point (and Kain's) regarding heavy musculature, but, again, that's a subjective interpretation of an artist that was, conservatively speaking, 'loose' in his proportionality for many characters. But none of this has much bearing on Hasbro's tendencies and I agree that, despite the Lizard outlier, Hasbro isn't going to create a new sculpt to cobble a svelte human sized FA Apocalypse. In fact, the details that I pointed out that are idiosyncratic to the character as Simonson illustrated him are a powerful indication, to me, that a quick redraft with the corrected color palette will follow shortly after this XTAS/Retro release. That and Hasbro's unerringly consistent return to familiar wells. Get ready for a 4.0 Apocalypse. Last edited by TheBlueMarvel; 06-21-2022 at 08:16 AM..