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Originally Posted by RamenRider

Yes, and I disagree, this design is pretty great. Love the Mad Max-style with the chain spider over the chest.

And women with masculine designs don’t work because?

If it even is comedy. I just said its fun. Because a hulking, large, post-apocalyptic musclebound Cyborg Spider Woman sounds cool.

Why not have something new for a change? Both options sound good. I can have a good time seeing characters I recognize; I can have a good time learning about new ones.

In this case I get new ones so let’s go.

I do not know if you are serious, but assuming you are, let me attempt to explain.

You ask what is wrong with making a woman with a masculine design. It does not work since it is no different than drawing a human being as a pig and saying that is a human being. Sure, I can take pity on such a drawing as the work of someone who is incompetent at drawing. But, it would be more sensible to call their drawing an orc or a pig-person than a human being. Similarly, you cannot design an actual female character to look like a man and call that a great design. It would be better to simply call that new character a man at that point.

As for your question on why not create something new for a change, the issue is that nothing new is actually created. What is done is to take the existing design of a comic book man and label it as a woman. That is not new. It is just absurd.

Finally, on good vs. bad design, saying something is a good design is admittedly subjective for many who have not looked at the matter technically. However, leaving that aside, even a child can identify a poor design. This Spider-Woman is definitely a poor design. To explain why, consider an image of Batman by Jim Lee or just Spider Gwen shown here. Even if someone had zero knowledge of comics, no one would confuse Batman with being a woman or Spider-Gwen as being a man. This is because the image conveys very clearly as to who is a man and who is a woman. Even the most basic design principle is that ones design must convey such basic information by itself.

Thus, this Spider-Woman design is BAD because the only thing making it Spider-"Woman" is the label on the box! All the visual cues point to it being a man. Therefore, it is a terrible design. Only way it becomes even a remotely decent design is if it was actually a man who wants to be Spider-Woman like the gag male characters in anime or manga who dress up as magical girls. So the reason why I asked whether you were serious at the start of my comment is because you actually said this is a "pretty great" design.

Anyway, if you are still convinced that this is a great design, I can add nothing more. So we will just have to agree to disagree.