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Old 09-02-2011, 12:36 AM   #13
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Then when Morrison got ahold of them, he pretty much outright ignored everything she ever did for Gen X, and reduced her to the untrustable villainous-turned-hero, who everyone doubted at every single turn.
And at the same time, they pretty much ran Jean into the dirt for me. I mean, they killed and resurrected her what, five times in one story? They literally took every single thing I loved about her and made her so rediculous I stopped caring altogether.

I also couldn't stand the whole diamond thing. I have no issues with changing, but when Morrison took over, he made so many changes that made no sense, and had no point. Just to mess with the status quo.
Basically... I don't really like either of them anymore. I didn't like Emma stealing Scott (But not because I'm a diehard Scott/Jean shipper. I really didn't like them as a couple, either. But at least they were a better match than Jean/Logan that seems so popular).
Basically... the only good thing that came out of Morrison's run as far as I'm concerned, was turning Xavier's back into an actual school for mutants, again.

To answer the original thread questions though...
Jean is established as being canonically the second most powerful telepath on earth. And when I was reading, Xavier suspected she was actually more powerful than he.
There's no way Emma could ever hold a candle against her in terms of power. That's pure canon.
Character developement, Emma had so much further to come, and indeed redeemed herself completely. Jean never had such an opportunity (Discounting the crimes of the Pheonix, which wasn't actually her.). So Emma has had more opportunities for personal growth and character developement. Jean stayed fairly stagnant, and unfortunately tied to the Phoenix, which hurt her severely for character growth.
Joss Whedon did volumes for Emma Frost's character. I started enjoying her most as a result of the Astonishing series. The dynamic between her and Scott has only improved over the years especially during the whole X-Force and Dark X-Men/The Cabal situation that had them reveal eachother's dark secrets to each other. In short, they have an actual relationship that seems more realistic than the campy one that Jean and Scott did. Just my opinion.

I agree the diamond thing is a whatever for me. It's her ability to shut people up with her crass remarks that just makes her that more appealing than the "love me, I'm a cute Red Head with Issues" approach that writers took to Jean in the past.

Definitely don't have an argument on the Power Levels. Jean is ridiculously powerful. I just see her as a weak personality.
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