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Originally Posted by Nexodusrex

I have to say Marvel has the best villains.

While its true DC has Batmans Rogues Gallery and Lex Luthor.....thats really all they have when it comes to being noticable. Not many DC villains really cause any major fandom outside of Lex and Batmans Nutty bars. I mean, just look at the Green Lantern movie, they couldnt get any real noticable character by regular casual fan standards

Now Marvel, on the other hand, every film has had some big villain, and every hero out there has a great nasty villain thats instantly noticable to the casual fan. Thor Has Loki, Captain America has the Red Skull, X-men have Magneto and Sabretooth and Apocalypse and even more recognizable villains thanks to its various TV series's. Spiderman has his colorfull rogues gallery which is just as psychotic as Batmans. The Fantastic Four has Dr freakin Doom, the original inspiration for Darth Vader!

Image is hard to say cause to me, its like theres no real major consistancy. their villains arent mainstream enough to really point a finger at an go "OOOOOO I love that guy" to the casual comic fan. Shame, though I freakin hate Savage Dragon.

Disney, I'm gonna say you mean villains in the disney movies. They do steal the spotlight many times, but in the end they almost always die and then thats it. Disney dosent have a superboy to punch their 4th wall to bring them back to life. great memorial villains, but they dont get a real chance to move beyond their first appearance.

So I have to say marvel. In DC, whos the guy you point out who wants to rule or destroy the world/universe. Darkseid or Lex Luthor or maybe Sinestro. its always them. In Marvel, its Doom, Magneto when he's bad, Green Goblin, Loki, Thanos, Zemo, Red Skull, Ultron, the list goes on and on.

Marvel wins. Maybe the DCnU will add a lot more depth to their villains so they can compete. otherwise they will ALWAYS play second fiddle to the heroes.

I would have to agree and disagree. A couple years ago, I'd have been behind you 100 percent.
I agree that aside from Batman's Rogues, Marvel definately has the most recognizable a and b list villains. (Though I'd argue with some of their c and below. I think there are quite a few minor DC villains who're more recognizable than the likes of The Wreckers, or some of Iron Man's rogues).
But I feel aside from Marvel's A list villains, most of theirs get very little characterization. When was the last time we saw an issue about why Paste Pot Pete does what he does? Or the last time Rhino was more than just a plot device?
For DC though, I think a lot of the writers put a lot of thought into the motives of their villains. Calculator, Captain Boomerang, Doctor Light, Trickster... all are very minor characters that have been built up, with complex stories. That's not even getting into the Secret Six.

I think Marvel's A and B listers are indeed better, but I think DC has the most interesting minor villains. Marvel has style. DC has substance. Neither are bad qualities, though.