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Snowflakian · 10-01-2011, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nexodusrex

actually, your wrong. Punisher War Zone did come out in 2008, but Marvel Studios did not regain the Punisher movie License Untill 2010. I remember that specifically because they announced that at the 2010 SDCC.
Heres the proof.
SDCC ’10 | Marvel Studios regains film rights for the Punisher | Robot 6 @ Comic Book Resources – Covering Comic Book News and Entertainment
Wikipedia and IMDB arent trustworthy websites because anybody and everybody can edit their information.
If you google "Marvel Studios Regains Punisher Rights", you'll find every article taking place in or after July 2010, with later articles reporting that Marvel Studios also regained the rights to Blade
I will admit that I was wrong about Valhalla. I just grabbed the first company I saw on the Wikipedia website.

that being said, if you do look at the Marvel Studios wikipedia page, it lists Punisher Warzone under Coproductions, which are movies made outside of Marvel Studios primary involvement. includes such films as the x-men films, F4 films, Spiderman trilogy, Daredevil. Thats why those films say "Marvel" in the opening, not "Marvel Studios"

The Five In-House Films they have done, Incredible Hulk Ironman Ironman2 Captain America and Thor, haave all been good movies. But Marvel Studios did not solely make Punisher Warzone, much like they didnt soley make Spiderman or X-Men

Edit : Heres some more links about Marvel regaining Punisher at SDCC 2010
Marvel regains Punisher Rights - The Movie Blog
SDCC: Marvel Regains Film Rights for 'The Punisher' - The Moviefone Blog
Marvel Studios To Make More Punisher Movies? - G4tv.com

Marvel had the Punisher rights, well shared them with Lionsgate(lionsgate had the rights to distro it). You'll notice on other sites that this announcement isn't news that they didn't already know. It wasn't news at the time either, and just reiterating a fact that was already true since prior to Warzone. Other outlets covered that with a 'How is this news' in their articles like bleedingcool and others did. It was just never formally stated. The rights reverted a few years after the first movie in the 2000s.

And yup marvel did help produce the film as much as they did the norton hulk (just they kept most of it under the Marvel Knights banner which is still marvel studios, but an adult oriented division, that's why it's considered the first under those two labels). They just prefer that not be on their track record as it's an adult film. We're going to just have to agree to disagree though on this, because neither of us are going to change the other's mind. You need to look farther back on the rights reverting though and through lionsgate not valhalla. That's just when it was announced at a con(SDCC2010), not when it actually happened(which was prior to warzone being made). It wasn't valhalla that had the rights, it was lionsgate that was sharing them with marvel(as part of a distro contract).

Essentially, it's a propaganda campaign to shovel off the lone mistake in Marvel Studio's track record. Look for links that talk about it that'd be more in the know like comic sites are. There's a reason it was only picked up as 'major news' from those that don't follow the contracts, but again it was just a comment at a con that didn't say when they re-acquired the rights, just that they had the rights which fans should have already known.

You'll also notice a follow up piece in 2011 saying Marvel regained Punisher and Blade movie rights. Now blade I'm unsure of as I don't know the contract stipulations, but if July 2011 is when they got the punisher rights back... How does that make 2010 the year it happened? It doesn't. Just like 2010 isn't the year it happened either. Punisher just typically gets ignored in the news barring some places that are anal about it like CBR, BC, and a few other places.
Ed Norton hulk was also made by valhalla with marvel studios, this time not under the marvel knights banner. So credit for it should go to valhalla as much as much as marvel studios. Hulk wasn't the first in-house made movie. Otherwise, why is Valhalla able to take credit for it(see the same page above on valhalla's official site)? Both are marked as made in association with. (It's even in both film's credits.) Not all of lionsgate films had marvel co-production. This one is considered the first marvel studios picture, though they'd prefer no one remember that. Other Lionsgate features that had Marvel hands on help were the direct to dvd animated ones. Man-thing is the only one marvel didn't touch afaik. The difference with Incredible Hulk (which is also valhalla made) is that marvel retained the rights on who got to distro it over punisher. The rights reverting on punisher just refer to that small fact, not who made the film.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2010/07/...talking-about/
http://www.pep.ph/guide/movies/3377/...er-in-war-zone

Punisher also won't be getting a new movie, he's slated for a potential live action tv series instead through Disney/Marvel. Warzone is a blemish they don't want to repeat. Even if they can just offhand it to touchstone pictures and use them as an excuse.

10-01-2011, 08:03 PM	#36
Snowflakian Illyria's New Qwa'ha Xahn Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: In the clouds. Posts: 4,120	Quote: Originally Posted by Nexodusrex actually, your wrong. Punisher War Zone did come out in 2008, but Marvel Studios did not regain the Punisher movie License Untill 2010. I remember that specifically because they announced that at the 2010 SDCC. Heres the proof. SDCC ’10 \| Marvel Studios regains film rights for the Punisher \| Robot 6 @ Comic Book Resources – Covering Comic Book News and Entertainment Wikipedia and IMDB arent trustworthy websites because anybody and everybody can edit their information. If you google "Marvel Studios Regains Punisher Rights", you'll find every article taking place in or after July 2010, with later articles reporting that Marvel Studios also regained the rights to Blade I will admit that I was wrong about Valhalla. I just grabbed the first company I saw on the Wikipedia website. that being said, if you do look at the Marvel Studios wikipedia page, it lists Punisher Warzone under Coproductions, which are movies made outside of Marvel Studios primary involvement. includes such films as the x-men films, F4 films, Spiderman trilogy, Daredevil. Thats why those films say "Marvel" in the opening, not "Marvel Studios" The Five In-House Films they have done, Incredible Hulk Ironman Ironman2 Captain America and Thor, haave all been good movies. But Marvel Studios did not solely make Punisher Warzone, much like they didnt soley make Spiderman or X-Men Edit : Heres some more links about Marvel regaining Punisher at SDCC 2010 Marvel regains Punisher Rights - The Movie Blog SDCC: Marvel Regains Film Rights for 'The Punisher' - The Moviefone Blog Marvel Studios To Make More Punisher Movies? - G4tv.com Marvel had the Punisher rights, well shared them with Lionsgate(lionsgate had the rights to distro it). You'll notice on other sites that this announcement isn't news that they didn't already know. It wasn't news at the time either, and just reiterating a fact that was already true since prior to Warzone. Other outlets covered that with a 'How is this news' in their articles like bleedingcool and others did. It was just never formally stated. The rights reverted a few years after the first movie in the 2000s. And yup marvel did help produce the film as much as they did the norton hulk (just they kept most of it under the Marvel Knights banner which is still marvel studios, but an adult oriented division, that's why it's considered the first under those two labels). They just prefer that not be on their track record as it's an adult film. We're going to just have to agree to disagree though on this, because neither of us are going to change the other's mind. You need to look farther back on the rights reverting though and through lionsgate not valhalla. That's just when it was announced at a con(SDCC2010), not when it actually happened(which was prior to warzone being made). It wasn't valhalla that had the rights, it was lionsgate that was sharing them with marvel(as part of a distro contract). Essentially, it's a propaganda campaign to shovel off the lone mistake in Marvel Studio's track record. Look for links that talk about it that'd be more in the know like comic sites are. There's a reason it was only picked up as 'major news' from those that don't follow the contracts, but again it was just a comment at a con that didn't say when they re-acquired the rights, just that they had the rights which fans should have already known. You'll also notice a follow up piece in 2011 saying Marvel regained Punisher and Blade movie rights. Now blade I'm unsure of as I don't know the contract stipulations, but if July 2011 is when they got the punisher rights back... How does that make 2010 the year it happened? It doesn't. Just like 2010 isn't the year it happened either. Punisher just typically gets ignored in the news barring some places that are anal about it like CBR, BC, and a few other places. Ed Norton hulk was also made by valhalla with marvel studios, this time not under the marvel knights banner. So credit for it should go to valhalla as much as much as marvel studios. Hulk wasn't the first in-house made movie. Otherwise, why is Valhalla able to take credit for it(see the same page above on valhalla's official site)? Both are marked as made in association with. (It's even in both film's credits.) Not all of lionsgate films had marvel co-production. This one is considered the first marvel studios picture, though they'd prefer no one remember that. Other Lionsgate features that had Marvel hands on help were the direct to dvd animated ones. Man-thing is the only one marvel didn't touch afaik. The difference with Incredible Hulk (which is also valhalla made) is that marvel retained the rights on who got to distro it over punisher. The rights reverting on punisher just refer to that small fact, not who made the film. http://www.bleedingcool.com/2010/07/...talking-about/ http://www.pep.ph/guide/movies/3377/...er-in-war-zone Punisher also won't be getting a new movie, he's slated for a potential live action tv series instead through Disney/Marvel. Warzone is a blemish they don't want to repeat. Even if they can just offhand it to touchstone pictures and use them as an excuse. __________________ Last edited by Snowflakian; 10-01-2011 at 09:02 PM..