Integration

Greenskar · 10-14-2011, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CLASSIFIED

True, but you are looking at it from a purely business standpoint; Stark Industries is known for deffense, and Wayne Tech not neccesarily, and maybe for that reason the party in question's gut reaction would be to go with Tony, but there is so much more to storytelling than just that.

Umm...this needs to be looked at from a business standpoint. You created a poll about who wins a bid for a big contract.

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Originally Posted by CLASSIFIED

Competition makes you better and that is a fair point that shouldn't easily be dismissed.

Plus, Bruce is a master strategist willing to use everything in his arsenal in order to succeed. If he decides Tony is not going to get the contract, its not going to happen.

Tony's support system is weaker too. Pepper, Happy, and Rhodes would be no match for the gaggle of crime fighters at Batman's disposal.

Not all business is above the board and I'd bet Bruce would be willing to employ some pretty shady tactics in order to win the contract if he decided that is what needed to be done.

He has Oracle to hack into Stark's systems, Dick to spy on Stark's men, Drake to dig up dirt on Stark, and if all else fails; Batman to scare the shit out of someone.

Now you're giving me the same line (in between the lines) that made me hate Batman for years in my early 20's browsing the message boards... "He'll win, because He's THE BATMAN".

EFF THAT.

TECHNOLOGY

Bruce's Wayne Industries creates gadgets which help Batman to be the terror of smalltime crooks and lunatics all over Gotham. He's produced suits of armor before, none of which can even come within spitting distance of the power levels of DC's top dawgs.

Stark Industries creates Gadgets that make the Iron Man one of the single most powerful superheroes in the Marvel Universe. They turn Iron Man into terror for cosmic beings. Somebody who can go toe to toe with the likes of Thor, and Incredible Hulk. And maybe, just maybe with a bit of strategic thinking, actually win.

Iron Man only just barely missed making it into the top ten most powerful heroes of all time list done some years back. That says everything you need to know about the difference in technological advancement between Stark industries and Wayne Enterprises.

FINANCES

Wayne Enterprises funds charities, civic services, and batman's low-to-mid scale(Compared to Iron Man's at least) technology.

Stark Enterprises funds charities, Iron Man's massively superior up to date technology, multiple specialized varieties of his own primary armor including War Machine, and Hulkbuster suits, the creation of hundreds of Gaurdian knock-off armors(Batman's best suit of armor is about equal to a single suit of Gaurdian Armor), dozens of old and now obsolete Armor designs, AND he Funds the Avengers.

POLITICAL INFLUENCE

Wayne Enterprises is almost exclusively centered and focused in Gotham. While it fills many government contracts, it's just one corporation amongst many who does so.

Stark Enterprises is, and has for a long time been deeply connected in the government. Stark has supplied them with many weapons and technologies, and has worked very intimately with the government in both his identities. He has many levels of security clearance. And again...was also the Secretary of Defense at one point.

Is there really any question who has superior political influence?

Bruce's only advantage is that strategically he's smarter. But not by a large enough margin to cancel out Tony's technological, political, and financial advantages. Bruce has a small headstart in Strategic Brains, but tony has a huge headstart in the other three categories.

Tony's battle with the bottle is resolved for the most part. As resolved as such a battle can ever be. It doesn't enter into this. If anything it's made him a stronger man for this competitive bid.

Even Experience-wise Tony has the advantage. Very few, if any Batman storylines have ever focused on a corporate battle. Only one in fact, which I dont beleive they ever even resolved adequately if I remember correctly. He's so pathologically obsessed with being Batman he leaves Wayne Enterprises almost exclusively in Lucius Fox's hands. It's ironic really. He could do more good as Bruce Wayne than he ever could as Batman, but he's too blinded by his obsession to realize that.

Tony Stark has a VERY active hand in Stark Industries. He understands the power he has as Tony Stark is in many ways far greater than the power he has as Iron Man, and he puts it to use every single day. He's had more than a few corporate take over storylines in his day.

But Bruce will take this, because he's Batman.

*Sigh* It's not your fault Bruce, much love Homie.

10-14-2011, 10:41 AM	#60
Greenskar Puny Humans Join Date: May 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,342	Quote: Originally Posted by CLASSIFIED True, but you are looking at it from a purely business standpoint; Stark Industries is known for deffense, and Wayne Tech not neccesarily, and maybe for that reason the party in question's gut reaction would be to go with Tony, but there is so much more to storytelling than just that. Umm...this needs to be looked at from a business standpoint. You created a poll about who wins a bid for a big contract. Quote: Originally Posted by CLASSIFIED Competition makes you better and that is a fair point that shouldn't easily be dismissed. Plus, Bruce is a master strategist willing to use everything in his arsenal in order to succeed. If he decides Tony is not going to get the contract, its not going to happen. Tony's support system is weaker too. Pepper, Happy, and Rhodes would be no match for the gaggle of crime fighters at Batman's disposal. Not all business is above the board and I'd bet Bruce would be willing to employ some pretty shady tactics in order to win the contract if he decided that is what needed to be done. He has Oracle to hack into Stark's systems, Dick to spy on Stark's men, Drake to dig up dirt on Stark, and if all else fails; Batman to scare the shit out of someone. Now you're giving me the same line (in between the lines) that made me hate Batman for years in my early 20's browsing the message boards... "He'll win, because He's THE BATMAN". EFF THAT. TECHNOLOGY Bruce's Wayne Industries creates gadgets which help Batman to be the terror of smalltime crooks and lunatics all over Gotham. He's produced suits of armor before, none of which can even come within spitting distance of the power levels of DC's top dawgs. Stark Industries creates Gadgets that make the Iron Man one of the single most powerful superheroes in the Marvel Universe. They turn Iron Man into terror for cosmic beings. Somebody who can go toe to toe with the likes of Thor, and Incredible Hulk. And maybe, just maybe with a bit of strategic thinking, actually win. Iron Man only just barely missed making it into the top ten most powerful heroes of all time list done some years back. That says everything you need to know about the difference in technological advancement between Stark industries and Wayne Enterprises. FINANCES Wayne Enterprises funds charities, civic services, and batman's low-to-mid scale(Compared to Iron Man's at least) technology. Stark Enterprises funds charities, Iron Man's massively superior up to date technology, multiple specialized varieties of his own primary armor including War Machine, and Hulkbuster suits, the creation of hundreds of Gaurdian knock-off armors(Batman's best suit of armor is about equal to a single suit of Gaurdian Armor), dozens of old and now obsolete Armor designs, AND he Funds the Avengers. POLITICAL INFLUENCE Wayne Enterprises is almost exclusively centered and focused in Gotham. While it fills many government contracts, it's just one corporation amongst many who does so. Stark Enterprises is, and has for a long time been deeply connected in the government. Stark has supplied them with many weapons and technologies, and has worked very intimately with the government in both his identities. He has many levels of security clearance. And again...was also the Secretary of Defense at one point. Is there really any question who has superior political influence? Bruce's only advantage is that strategically he's smarter. But not by a large enough margin to cancel out Tony's technological, political, and financial advantages. Bruce has a small headstart in Strategic Brains, but tony has a huge headstart in the other three categories. Tony's battle with the bottle is resolved for the most part. As resolved as such a battle can ever be. It doesn't enter into this. If anything it's made him a stronger man for this competitive bid. Even Experience-wise Tony has the advantage. Very few, if any Batman storylines have ever focused on a corporate battle. Only one in fact, which I dont beleive they ever even resolved adequately if I remember correctly. He's so pathologically obsessed with being Batman he leaves Wayne Enterprises almost exclusively in Lucius Fox's hands. It's ironic really. He could do more good as Bruce Wayne than he ever could as Batman, but he's too blinded by his obsession to realize that. Tony Stark has a VERY active hand in Stark Industries. He understands the power he has as Tony Stark is in many ways far greater than the power he has as Iron Man, and he puts it to use every single day. He's had more than a few corporate take over storylines in his day. But Bruce will take this, because he's Batman. Sigh It's not your fault Bruce, much love Homie. __________________ Last edited by Greenskar; 10-14-2011 at 11:27 AM..