Integration

Jason Abbadon · 10-26-2011, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by trebleshot

The Beyonder was originally supposed to be a cosmic entity created out the escaped energy of a pocket dimension. That "event" was also supposed to be how the Molecule Man got his powers, since he was the one who opened a gateway to the pocket dimension.

But, when Marvel's management changed hands between Secret Wars II and III, the writers were told to get rid of him. So they retconned his origin (and Molecule Man's) to say that it was a cosmic cube that had somehow gained sentinence, along with giving Molecule Man his powers. And apparently, the other cosmic beings (Living Tribrunal, Galactus, et. al.) went along with the Beyonder's apparent "omnipotence" to in order to ease his transition into a sentient being.

Basically it was a big FU to Jim Shooter (who created Beyonder while EiC of Marvel).

And yes, there is more than one Cosmic Cube. Technically, the Cube itself is a containment device for an omnidimentional type of energy. Such containment devices aren't always in the shape of a cube, either. And according to Marvel, after an unspecified time the contained energy eventually gains sentience and bases its overall personality on a composite of whomever it came in contact with while still a cube.

I'm sure Jim wishes that was still the case.

Of course, Marvel would never retcon a retcon.

...oh, wait.

I think Franklin Richards could take him.

The Beyonder has (somehow) been retconned yet AGAIN (in Illumaniti) to be an Inhuman Mutant that got exposed to the Terrigen Mists and went super-cosmic: this seeems to happen in the future as Black Bolt was present, but has o memory of it happening and time-travel means zip to the Beyonder.

A strange cocept and fans really hated it so Bendis seems to have dropped presuing the idea.

The issue itself was excellent though- a great showing for namor and Black Bolt and when the Beyonder grants the Illumaniti their greatest wish, Doctor Strange wakes up in bed- with Clea and the Scarlett Witch!

Gotta say, that's a pretty good damn wish.

While I looove me some Thanos, I have to add Gorgon to this list- his first outing saw him easily kill Wolverine and Electra.
Really, the guy's got a slew of powers- some form of telepathy, healing factor, super speed reflexes, enhanced endurance, and strength...and a utan power that turns people to stine when he looks at them.
Half the time he fists with a freakin blindfold on!

Oh, and he's been to hell and back- twice. So he fears nothing: fear and phobia powers dont work on him- nor telepathic attacks.

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Jason Abbadon Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida Posts: 5,490	Quote: Originally Posted by trebleshot The Beyonder was originally supposed to be a cosmic entity created out the escaped energy of a pocket dimension. That "event" was also supposed to be how the Molecule Man got his powers, since he was the one who opened a gateway to the pocket dimension. But, when Marvel's management changed hands between Secret Wars II and III, the writers were told to get rid of him. So they retconned his origin (and Molecule Man's) to say that it was a cosmic cube that had somehow gained sentinence, along with giving Molecule Man his powers. And apparently, the other cosmic beings (Living Tribrunal, Galactus, et. al.) went along with the Beyonder's apparent "omnipotence" to in order to ease his transition into a sentient being. Basically it was a big FU to Jim Shooter (who created Beyonder while EiC of Marvel). And yes, there is more than one Cosmic Cube. Technically, the Cube itself is a containment device for an omnidimentional type of energy. Such containment devices aren't always in the shape of a cube, either. And according to Marvel, after an unspecified time the contained energy eventually gains sentience and bases its overall personality on a composite of whomever it came in contact with while still a cube. I'm sure Jim wishes that was still the case. Of course, Marvel would never retcon a retcon. ...oh, wait. I think Franklin Richards could take him. The Beyonder has (somehow) been retconned yet AGAIN (in Illumaniti) to be an Inhuman Mutant that got exposed to the Terrigen Mists and went super-cosmic: this seeems to happen in the future as Black Bolt was present, but has o memory of it happening and time-travel means zip to the Beyonder. A strange cocept and fans really hated it so Bendis seems to have dropped presuing the idea. The issue itself was excellent though- a great showing for namor and Black Bolt and when the Beyonder grants the Illumaniti their greatest wish, Doctor Strange wakes up in bed- with Clea and the Scarlett Witch! Gotta say, that's a pretty good damn wish. While I looove me some Thanos, I have to add Gorgon to this list- his first outing saw him easily kill Wolverine and Electra. Really, the guy's got a slew of powers- some form of telepathy, healing factor, super speed reflexes, enhanced endurance, and strength...and a utan power that turns people to stine when he looks at them. Half the time he fists with a freakin blindfold on! Oh, and he's been to hell and back- twice. So he fears nothing: fear and phobia powers dont work on him- nor telepathic attacks. Last edited by Jason Abbadon; 10-26-2011 at 06:16 PM..