[SaitoNetwork]

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Originally Posted by MegaPrime33

See that's the point. They're aiming the new show for kids because kids want toys and are more than likely to watch a show if its on in the morning before school, after school, or weekend mornings. Then they decided to cater to us by creating the classics line. Seems like a win-win for them in my book.

But that's not even what the kids want, 21st century kids want the PG-13 we would like to strive for too. And it's not a win-win if the enormous fanbase TMNT brought on from the first movie and TV series loses interest in the show.

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Originally Posted by trebleshot

Well,considering they're supposed to be teenagers, they shouldn't look (or act) like adults anyway. Also, the new show is actually closer in look to their original form (which was in a comic book meant to parody the comic trends of the day).

But hey, if you don't like it, there's always the Classics line. Or if you pass altogether, more for me.

When have they ever behaved just like teens? Ninja's, killers, vanquishers, and they are half-turtles; I don't see teen role models in regards to behavior.

The classics were what made TMNT, then the cheesy show came in, and the movie took some of the classic concepts and made it a huge success- I mean if it wasn't successful for the violence, the part-realistic concept of the turtles (they could actually swear for one) it wouldn't have been the big seller that it was. I think the TMNT nick show is a ship doomed to sink, it is nothing like what I was hoping for and I expected this kind of turnabout nonetheless from Nick considering they are based on these kiddie concepts.

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Originally Posted by Paxtin

Somewhat amusing that Saito's comment came right after Proteus' post about positivity.

I think I said it in another thread somewhere, but I could see this new series being the Transformers Animated equivalent for TMNT. In the mixed reaction to the aesthetics anyway. The overall quality of the show is still up in the air.

I can tell you that it's going to get rank when it comes back down, this looks just like a Kung Fu Panda crossover and nothing like TMNT; the dark, gritty, ninja part of these series is what made TMNT TMNT. (By now it should be MNT.)

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Originally Posted by proteus

Ok list some examples of successful modern cartoon series (outside of TF's) that have a massive fanbase amongst adults)How would you make them "groundbreaking" yet retain what makes them TMNT?? Like it or not the biggest market for toys is kids,not adult collectors,and this line has a great balance of something for everyone.

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Originally Posted by trebleshot

Well,considering they're supposed to be teenagers, they shouldn't look (or act) like adults anyway. Also, the new show is actually closer in look to their original form (which was in a comic book meant to parody the comic trends of the day).[/QUOTE]

HIT.NAIL.ON.HEAD.

Do you honestly want me to name EVERY modern adult-appeal cartoon-knock-off that was revived for Today's generation? What about Spiderman? Batman? Superman? The Justice Force? Oh, and dare I say it, My Little Pony?? Do I really need to go on? And I can tell you that the series they developed for those franchises appealed to both children and adults, as did TMNT 2k3 for those who are fans of the series (I don't even need to cite how it appealed.) Oh, and let's not forget, the eighties series morphed over time and became very dark and gritty to appeal to a growing audience.

If they did look like their original form, they would look a lot like their original forms; multi-colored bandanas, height differences, body differences, different eye color and even Don is missing a tooth- how is this anything coming even CLOSE to being related to the original comics?

As for me personally, what would I do to make it "groundbreaking", well... I have plans, and as a fan I have been considering exactly what should be done for years now. I don't want to open yet exactly what should be done, but for an example, making them respectable? Iconic for the new generation, not for reliving the old one (time to move on), reviving them as a fresh concept instead of a knock-off of the old eighties cartoon. It's time they grew up, older, and added emotional value- nothing as stupid as what Nick is trying to show off here. Let's put it this way: Would you see Ironman in leotards, or in a full bodied suit of armor?

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Honestly, TMNT would thrive on both angles if they keep it dark and gritty; it's how they started out anyway. The kids, and this is obvious, want to see the action and the violence as fans of TMNT; degrading TMNT for the sake of trying to pass it off with the same chemistry that was an eighties shtick isn't a viable direction, the eighties stayed in the eighties and everyone grew up.