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Originally Posted by SaitoNetwork

But that's not even what the kids want, 21st century kids want the PG-13 we would like to strive for too. And it's not a win-win if the enormous fanbase TMNT brought on from the first movie and TV series loses interest in the show.

The classics were what made TMNT, then the cheesy show came in, and the movie took some of the classic concepts and made it a huge success- I mean if it wasn't successful for the violence, the part-realistic concept of the turtles (they could actually swear for one) it wouldn't have been the big seller that it was.Do you honestly want me to name EVERY modern adult-appeal cartoon-knock-off that was revived for Today's generation? What about Spiderman? Batman? Superman? The Justice Force? Oh, and dare I say it, My Little Pony?? Do I really need to go on? And I can tell you that the series they developed for those franchises appealed to both children and adults, as did TMNT 2k3 for those who are fans of the series (I don't even need to cite how it appealed.) Oh, and let's not forget, the eighties series morphed over time and became very dark and gritty to appeal to a growing audience.

As for me personally, what would I do to make it "groundbreaking", well... I have plans, and as a fan I have been considering exactly what should be done for years now. I don't want to open yet exactly what should be done, but for an example, making them respectable? Iconic for the new generation, not for reliving the old one (time to move on), reviving them as a fresh concept instead of a knock-off of the old eighties cartoon. It's time they grew up, older, and added emotional value- nothing as stupid as what Nick is trying to show off here. Let's put it this way: Would you see Ironman in leotards, or in a full bodied suit of armor?

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Honestly, TMNT would thrive on both angles if they keep it dark and gritty; it's how they started out anyway. The kids, and this is obvious, want to see the action and the violence as fans of TMNT; degrading TMNT for the sake of trying to pass it off with the same chemistry that was an eighties shtick isn't a viable direction, the eighties stayed in the eighties and everyone grew up.

These "kids" you keep refering to,are these the SAME kids that are lapping up BEN-10,Bakugan,Spongebob,etc?? Hardly PG-13 shows!!! And if i had children aged 5-10 NO WAY would i be happy letting them watch an animated show packed full of PG-13 violence,and i dont see parents across the USA(or the world) being any different,children live in a different world to adults,their toys fight,die and come back the next day to fight and die all over again,do you really think a dark violent,swearing filled animated show would make any headway ANYWHERE in the world?? The word "ninja" had to be dropped from the title and changed to "hero" before the original 80s show could even be aired in the UK,because "ninja" was deemed too violent!!! i appreciate your concerns and you are obviously a MASSIVE TMNT fan,but as i stated before toys and the shows based off/around them are intended for kids,and us adults have to accept that,and make the compromise. Give the new show a chance,you may be surprised,and if not at least (hopefully) welcome a whole new generation of TMNT fans into the fold,and introduce them to the original versions you cherish.