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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

I actually enjoyed the later seasons, but if you look at the numbers for those last CBS seasons, and talk to the average kid reactions from the time, alongside even most modern fan discussions of it. It all comes to the same thing with marketing data to prove it. Those last CBS seasons are what killed the tmnt franchise.

Power Rangers going strong is a different argument entirely, it's not geared entirely for the 4 and up crowd unlike tmnt. PR has an audience of 8+ intended.

If you really look back at 2k3, while it was more balanced in story conveyance, they did use a lot of techniques to cover up the action. It also had more of a lesson to the episodes as well to balance the violence. (Most notably the anti-gang episodes, among many others.)

It's called a teenage stereotype btw. The pizza, attitudes, and growth are all drawn from teenage stereotypes. Yes it deals with scifi/fantasy elements too, but again they are talking turtles so why does that matter? The stereotypes for the personalities still remain true even with the ninja training.

It's fine if you don't like the new direction the show may take or how the toys look that's fine, but to call it wrong on any level without seeing how it's executed is rather asinine. They have TMNTC for collectors like you. Let this generation have their new take. 2k3 turned out great, and this has just as much of a chance to be as great or better.

TBH, you sound like the same people that bemoaned TF animated, and then later praised it.

If TMNT were "killed" as you put it, then there wouldn't have been now two modern reboots; I don't know what you mean by "killing", it was the end of an era of TMNT that needed to move on. Ten seasons, ten seasons, you can't ignore those statistics.

You brought it up, I didn't, and if it's 8+ then it appeals to a wide range audience including adults (which means balanced.).

I don't see how that counts for anything in regards to the fact that there was violence, there was even mind-numbing horror attached to the series- what nullifies those effects? Of course there is a balance, but there is zero balance in this reboot; just what are you driving at?

Then how is that appealing for teenagers if it is nothing but stereotypes? What does this have to do with anything that we are discussing?

It HAS already been executed, presented, promoted, categorized and bulletined- this is a big mistake and it's only going to get worse as the series continues like this.

Instead of the original fan base, we may end up actually losing some fans, now a lot of hope is residing on the new upcoming movie.

And just for your information, I am not a toy fan; I am a fan of the series, not the toys.

I'm not a big fan of the Transformers series either, and how am I moaning and PRAISING when the prize package has been delivered? Now look who's stereotyping.