[Greenskar]

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Originally Posted by Alienweirdo

Personally, the trailer gives me the impression this is going to be crap. After the truely fantastic Spectacular Spider-man, this seems like a step backwards, or maybe sideways... I know it's not fair to judge a series by the trailer alone, but the trailer is meant to make you want to watch the upcoming series, and for me it's just made me concerned...

Fair enough, this is a respectful opinion that I continue to hear from many concerned fans.

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First, what I liked. I can handle the surreal humour, like the cutaways and the toaster gag etc, and the animation looks great. They have Spider-man's attiude right, but that's all I can think of that looks good to me.

You know, I agree with you completely on this (with the exception of it being all that looks good to me). One of my favorite moments in the actual Ultimate Spider-Man comics was when he stood up in front of Kingpin and told him "You're soo Fat..." jokes. Completey nailed that type of humor based on what I see and hear in this trailer...

but the cutaways remind me more of Deadpool or even more like JD from Scrubs than anything I can pull from comics. And yet, somehow, it still seems to fit Spider-man and the tone of this cartoon. Interesting.

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It seems obvious that Disney feel the need to have Spider-man jump on the Avengers Bandwagon, hence the inclusion of Nick Fury, Iron Man and Captain America in the trailer. It was nice to see Spider-man wear the Iron Spider costume, but it made him more like an Iron Man clone., flying around shooting repulser blasts. The script seems diabolical... 'J Jonah Loud-mouth' ... What happened to his more creative insults and put downs? Like 'picklepuss' and 'flat-head'.

I suppose from the perspective of looking at all the recent Avengers publicity leading up to the movie and new season of EMH I can see how you could draw that conclusion.

The inclusion of Nick Fury was a staple in the actual Ultimate comics. The Ultimates had great run in's with Spidey in his comics, so why not here?

Interestingly, unless someone can show me otherwise, I've read just about every Ultimate Spidey comic from beginning to current Miles Morales, with maybe a few exceptions in between, and I don't recall the Iron Spider suit ever being in them.

All that tells me is that this cartoon is not entirely based upon the comic series and is wisely pulling from Marvel's vast repertoire of Spidey lore and other popular characters like Iron Fist and Nova. I'm all for it!

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And it's Ultimate this and ultimate that.. Like they need to remind us what we're watching.

Of course, it's a trailer. You need to know that you're not watching: Amazing, Unlimited or Spectacular, lol. To be fair, in the actual cartoon clip, Fury said Ultimate and Peter Joked, "How ultimate is 'ultimate'" which does fit the character.

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'Shield train' spider-man? Cap and Iron Man didn't need any Shield training! I'm not a fan of Peter Parker's voice either.. I can't put my finger on it. I'm not sure if it's because I'm used to the previous voice actors, but this guy sounds like he's trying too hard.

Peter always needed some sort of guidance. He's a kid. He's always also looked up to Men of Power. Even Tony in regular continuity was kind of a father figure personality at times when trying to explain the ways of the political world to Peter. So this seems fitting given his age. Peter make's many mistakes, just being a kid.

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But the most ridiculous thing I find annoying, why oh why would Spider-man ever need a motorcycle?! It's one thing to make up this crap for toys so kids can buy them, but to include them in the show? Spectacular never needed that stuff as the characters and story arcs were engaging enough to entertain and keep the watcher interested. All these gadgets and different costumes just scream 'merchendise' at me, which cheapens the feel of the show.

Dude...I thought the exact same thing, lol. Everytime I see the Spiderman toy section and see Spidey Helicopters and such I always think to myself, "My spidey belongs swinging on Webs!"

But you know what, Web swinging has it's limitations. And as such, Spidey through the years has been in Quinjets, boats, Space Shuttles and various vehicles to get to places web slinging couldn't take him...even if most of these vehicles he was being a spider stow-away.

Here's how my inner me who really wants to enjoy this show because I love Spidey is justifying it at the moment, lol:

1. Peter is 15, motorcycles are cool enough, let alone those with S.H.I.E.L.D tech! Why wouldn't he want one?
2. Peter, while smart, doesn't have unlimited resources to build things he may be capable of, upgrades are always sweet...did we mention they're free with joining shield?
3. Web Fluid is expensive and Peter has been prone to running out quite often. I'd imagine Motorcycle is a convenient alternative (and probably lasts one episode, lol)
4. Seriously, I don't care how old you are...who DOESN'T want a SHIELD issued Motorcycle?

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I loved Spectacular, even from the first trailer that they released for it. I will probably still watch this, to give it the benifit of the doubt.

The only thing I didn't like about Spectacular, as awesome as the show was, was the animation. I hated the way they drew villains and people in particular. Much the way I hated how the Animation was in Wolverine and the X-men. So far I love the animation style of USM, I just hope the stories are good too. Guess we'll all find out soon.