[Tiberius]

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Originally Posted by Crazy Jetty

Well, they didn't really say that the romulan empire fell apart. They just said that Romulus was destroyed. Nero's quest here is extremely personal, with his wife and family killed in the process. His whole world ended, but I don't recall them saying that the entire romulan empire was over and done. They didn't really have the time to do such. I think you're adding your own assumptions.



Because he was waiting for Spock Prime to arrive in this new universe. He wanted Spock to watch everything Spock loved destroyed, as he blaimed Romulus' destruction on Spock's failier.
Also, he was in klingon prison for a huge chunk of that time. This is mentioned in the film (His escape is what Uhura overheard and became a big part of the plot that Kirk pieced together, realizing this is the same thing that killed his father, and the Kelvin).
Parts of this were even filmed and cut out of the final movie. They're in the deleted scenes of the DVD.



I admit I assumed it was in Vulcan's system, possibly Vulcan's moon. Which I admit this whole part is one of the film's many oddities.



This is not even remotely a plothole. It's well established that ships are much more powerful in the 24th century than they are in the 22nd century. Romulan shields and weapons gave even the Enterprise-D a hard time, and she's a much more powerful ship than her namesake. Post TNG era ships are faster, stronger, and much more powerful than TOS era ships, even these new redesigns. Civilian ships would be no exceptions.
And in a hostile universe (The romulans are paranoid, and think everyone's out to get them), even civilian ships are often armed to defend. Nero's ship dominated everything in Kirk's era, but we never saw it fight Picard's ship. The D or E may have made mencemeat of it. Doesn't mean the original could.
And even if so, Nero's ship probably operated on the Klingon boarder, and was ment to defend itself against klingon warships. Which means it would have particularly strong shields and weapons.



As far as Nero is concerned, it has nothing to do with the TOS Romulans. His whole deal was personal. The added bonus was the TOS Romulan empire would benefit when he was done. He also used that to justify his screwing around with time. But the reality is he really wanted to make Spock pay for him losing his pregnant wife, and homeworld.

The rest I overall agree with, I just don't see them as dealbreakers. The cadet to captain thing is not accurate, but this is an origin movie with only a limited amount ot time to get all the key players in place. So I give them a break on that.

Besides... this movie made me actually *like* the character of Kirk. That goes a long way.

Great read!