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Well, I've said it before and it's been repeated in thread, so I'll just do a quick summary.

Pros
Marvel: more relatable, humanized characters. And not just heroes or villains. Even their supporting casts are more identifiable. Also, the villains are much more threatening, the heroes can and do lose (sometimes badly).

DC: Larger-than-life icons and (for most of them) heroes we idolize. The bad guys always lose, so we get to see heroes kick some ass. Less complicated storytelling, basically.

Cons
Marvel: The anti-hero plague. The unnecessary and stupid death/rebirth cycle. Too many crossovers and not enough separation between teams (it's a smaller list to name who is NOT an Avenger).

DC: Heroes and villains seem over-the-top and more fantastical. The rogues gallery is, with few exceptions, pathetic. The unnecessary and stupid death/rebirth cycle. The inability to stick to one continuity and avoid rewriting it seemingly every time a new creative team is brought on-board.

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Originally Posted by thechris

I dunno, man. I would say that Punisher, Batman, Daredevil, Spider-man and other heroes who don't have bulletproof flesh are all equally subject to the same discrimination of being able to be shot by bullets and killed. Yeah a couple of them have "heightened senses" but that doesn't make them bulletproof and one must be willing to allow for some fantasy to allow for them to dodge a hail of machine gun fire from multiple angles or possess armour of a grade capable of deflecting that much of a barrage.

In the extremely narrow situation of a gun fight, I would take Spider-Man out of that list before I would Batman. Peter has a Spider-Sense that warns him of danger to himself and he has the reflexes and agility to act on the early warning. He can literally dodge bullets, even if he can't see his attacker. The only exception is if one of the symbiotes shot him.

And while Bruce may not be as quick as Peter, I will say that Batman's costume is designed to give Bruce that extra couple of seconds so he can dodge gunfire. Why do you think his cape is ridiculously long? It's to mask his movements and keep the gunmen guessing on where to fire. Oh, yeah and apparently the cape's bulletproof now too, so that helps.

And in regards to iconic imagery, I'd put the X-logo right up there with the S-shield, Bat-signal, and Spider-symbol as the most widely-known. Certainly above Wonder Woman. Hell, I'd put Green Lantern's logo above Wonder Woman's, given his recent movie and current TV show.