[Kaewin]

Wow miss a couple days and a serious topic appears. I have very mixed feelings about both. When I was little my first comics were old books like Solar, Magnus, Star Trek and the lot but when I got into real collecting it was Marvel titles. I think this might stem from I first saw Fantastic Four in Boy's life. They did the origin in the magazine. I saw the FF but picked up the Avengers and that is what started my collecting. Since that day back in 1983 I have seen lots of different books come and go and I have read both Major Companies and they both have good and bad points. In the eighties Marvel reigned as the champions. they had tight writing, great characterization and had yet to swallow their own hubris. The Universe was connected and related. The weren't over the top no flaws people with no weakness. But in the nineties DC stepped forward with great stories and art. The had good art not art wielded by a few creatures who used it as weapons to control the company but solid stuff.

Marvel seemed to be strong early on with the characters everyone "wanted " to read. The took what they thought were their prizes and showered the books with these characters. Anti Heroes were cool, violence was cool and so were tricks to sell books. Dc had a better solution tell a good story. They ha da couple small problems, in the early ninties they had a soft reboot with Zero Hour because some people missed the notes on how to keep it in continuity and the gimmick "deaths." Beyond that they did fine.

In the 2000's both equaled out as they tried to sell more and more books. Complex storylines were the thing to entertain readers and it became more real at the same time it became more unreal. Events became the thing, they had to have events and some made no sense why they happened. It was just a plot to suck money.

I must admit I got out in 2006 for three years and when I got back in I left my DC books and went back to Marvel. I am happy there enjoying my Avengers and I do wish they would skip events but that won't happen. Everyone has valid opinions and I agree with many. I know this is a long blurb but how I see Marvel and DC's strongs points are as follows.

Marvel has a good History with innovation. They have taken concepts and run with them as far as they can go, and that is also a weakness. Marvel doesn't seem to know when it has played out an idea or a plot. Events suck, interrupting story lines for this sucks and annoying. Some heroes are to visible. One character in one book. Wolverine should be in one or if forced two books, not the Avengers Bendis is an idiot. Spidey is in three right now, how does he have anytime? He needs to pick one team and one team only besides his main book and stay there. Thing, FF or Avengers one or the other, he said he was leaving the team but in AvX guess what.

Characterization is great, I like the way Fraction rights Iron man. Brubacker is great for Cap. The only problem each issue is about tearing down the hero each and every arc. Plots can work and stories flow without punishing the Hero. I am so close to drop Cap if Brubaker tries and gives him the big screw in the next storyline.

Bendis....he is a good and bad thing. I like some of his writing because Secret Invasion was genius but all of the Osborn returning and who he put in the Avengers leaves something to be desired. I know he wanted a change but there was a reason why neither Spiderman nor Wolverine was on the team.

They laughed at DC for the reboot but it looks like they may have to change.


And DC They have an old and storied history, lots of events happen and are enjoyed, why do they reboot them every few years? And I don't mean just the big ones the little ones too. It seems that since Byrne anyone who took over a Superman book could retell the origin if he wanted to. He was altered what four or five times since '87? They should have stayed with it.

The characters are way to powerful or perfect. Batman does what he does in five titles a month, runs a company, patrols the streets, works out, eats, shits, maybe sleep where does he get all the time to make new gadgets and study all his new information? Whio makes his stuff anyway? Tony Stark? Shouldn't Green Lantern patrol his sector? When Hal gets the nod from a the Maltusans, I mean Guardians, he will stick to earth and forget the rest of space. They are always busy, and yes Marvel has this problem too, but they are also so powerful. I mean Flash runs faster than light, look at Kal's power set. It is hard to make a regular challenge at all interesting when the hero is a god.

The Big Reboot, New 52. They have said that Superman is first, well except for Batman, and he showed up five years ago. Everything else falls in someplace. What? What is let over. The war of the Rings has, maybe Blackest Night but how far back. Stormwatch? Why is the Martian Manhunter, the first silver age hero, part of this group not the one he first founded? Cyborg, a Teen Titan is. What also doesn't count. When Crisis came out DC put on a two book prestige format book called The History of the DC Universe. We could use one here.


I read both and enjoy both. I love my Marvel stuff and tried some DC books because they are cheaper so I feel it is a tie for me. I love the Avengers and Marvel Silver Age excites me but I do enjoy some of the new DC books to come out. I thing Swamp Thing is their best title and read more at about and even split each month. I just feel they have both much to work on. The New 52 is not going away no matter how improbable it was to happen and yes I feel Marvel is about to do the same thing in AvX when Phoenix takes over Wanda (speculation only). Will it annoy me? Yes, will I read it? Yes.

Just saying