TFW2005HisstankThundercatsTokuNationToyark

The Toyark - News - Welcome to The Toyark!

Entertainment Earth
  • Home
  • News
    • Marvel Toy News
    • DC Toy News
    • Star Wars Toy News
    • Video Game Toy News
    • Dragonball Z Toy News
    • MOTU Toy News
    • San Diego Comic Con
    • Toy Fair
    • All News Categories…
  • JUMP OFF!
    • SDCC Round Up
    • S.H.F Dragonball Z
    • Photo Shoots
    • Quick Shots
    • Toy Fair Round Up
    • NYCC Round Up
  • Forum
    • New Posts
    • News and Rumors
    • Action Figure GD
    • Marvel Forum
    • Customs
    • Fan Art
    • Collection Showcase
    • Buy Sell Trade
  • Companies
    • Tamashii Nations
    • McFarlane
    • Hasbro
    • NECA
    • Mezco
    • Super7
    • Mattel
    • Diamond Select Toys
    • Storm Collectibles
    • Hot Toys
    • Sideshow
  • Characters
    • Batman
    • Superman
    • Iron Man
    • Spider-Man
    • Wolverine
    • Hulk
    • Green Lantern
    • Captain America
    • Boba Fett
  • Scale
    • 3.75 Inch
    • 6 Inch
    • 7 Inch
    • 1/6
  • Sub-Lines
    • SH Figuarts
    • DC Multiverse
    • Marvel Legends
    • Black Series
    • One:12 Collective
    • Super 7 Ultimates
    • Vintage Collection
    • Masterverse
    • MOTU Origins
Premium Bandai
Go Back   The Toyark > Toyark Toy Forums
Reload this Page

Integration

Rules Register Community Today's Posts Search
Community Links
Pictures & Albums
Members List
Search Forums
 
Tag Search
Advanced Search
Go to Page...
Thread: Mattel DC Toys Update
View Single Post
Old 05-01-2012, 09:43 AM   #28
Shin Densetsu
OPTIMUS GUINNESS
Shin Densetsu's Avatar
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,542
Quote:
Originally Posted by Enigma2K2 View Post
Have any of you... ANY OF YOU... seen me disagree with the comments about the retailers. No. In fact, back in the day on the WTF@TFW podcast, Kickback has already explained how much control the retailers have. But MattyCollector ain't exactly what I'd call flawless.

High prices, crap shipping, CLUB subscriptions?!?!? Why doesn't it have anything to do with it? why the hell did they have to cancel lines to make them club exclusives anyway?
In Kickback I TRUST

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazy Jetty View Post
I worked for Walmart. And I've said what the problem is, a million times on this board, and so have others. I'll explain it again (And I'm not intenting to sound snippy, that's not my intended tone and I appologize if it reads that way. I don't mean it to)

The problem is on the store level. It's the system virtually *all* the box retailers use to order items. It's literally called POS (Not making that up. And it *is* a p.o.s. system).
For Walmart and Target, virtually all ordering is done by the computer, which monitors what goes across the checkouts. Let's use Transformers for our main example:
A case in the first wave of Transformers Prime was made up of 3 Bumblebees, 2 Cliffjumpers, 2 Wheeljacks, and 1 Soundwave.
Each one of those has an individual UPC number, and on the reciept may even acknowledge the ndividual character, as it may read out "Tsfmr Bumble," or "Trns Sound" on the receipt.
What POS does, is it keeps track of how many items a store has in stock, and how many it has on the floor (meaning in the backroom, and on the shelf)
Once an item reaches below a preset amount, then the system automatically orders a preset amount of cases from their warehouse. And it does not acknowledge or understand the differences between Bumblebee or Soundwave.
So in this situation, Soundwave is a rare and popular character. Needed by kids and collectors alike. They can stock four cases to the shelf, and end up with 12 Bumblebees, 8 Cliffjumpers, 8 Wheeljacks, and only 4 Soundwaves.
Naturally, Soundwave is gonna sell out really fast. Even if not many people want him, but more people want Bumblebee. Those looking for Soundwave are still gonna come up short.
Now like I said, POS doesn't individualize, and see they're out of Soundwaves, and low on Wheeljacks, but still has 10 bumblebees on the shelf but no soundwaves. All it sees is they have 20 deluxe transformers on the shelf (where you or I see 10 'Bees, 7, Cliffs, and 3 'jacks), and a full case in the backstock, and doesn't order any more until the total stock reaches five or six deluxes.
While I can't speak for Barbi or simular girls toys, this effects every actionfigure, across every brand, across every toy company. It's been the downfall of many many lines. Even popular ones.
This is what effects distribution so badly, and this is something that Mattel, nor Hasbro has absolutely *any* say over.
It killed Transformers Alternators, and has been the single worst enemy to DCUC, and Infinite Heroes. Seen how badly it hurts transformers and Marvel Universe, too.

The only thing they can do is try to cheat it with case assortments. And even if they dropped the case assortments down as evenly as they can, to 1 figure per case, per wave, and even that still wouldn't do much.
On top of that, speaking from personal experience, it sometimes takes an act of god for an employee who is aware of a propblem to be *allowed* to do anything about it (Like clearance out figures that are gumming things up).
Hell, Walmart even uses POS on fresh areas like Produce. We threw away more good produce because POS kept screwing up our stock and shipping us stuff faster than we could sell it. We'd end up sitting on literally thirty 80 lbs cases of carrots, when we could only sell through maybe a case a day, with more coming in every night.
So it mucks up everything. Not just toys.

That is the true source of the problem. Bad case assortments, and bad character selections will only feed this. But it's the POS which dictates distributions. Because it see's the shelf full of something, it will continually skip ordering cases from the warehouse, which is why you can sometimes see one store skip two, or three waves, while another store the next town over may get them.

I hope that helps. (If I were wise, I'd save this post somewhere so I could just copy/paste it in the future.)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Morzilla View Post
I work for target and now I'm doing the graveyard shift so I get to see what gets put on shelves before anyone else, and believe me when I say that I agree with crazy jetty on this one. Since I have started doing late nights all I have seen come in for toys is beyblade, star wars, and Avengers that's it.
And as I have also worked as cashier, I have seen more of the beyblades and the like fly out the door. No Marvel, DC, GIJoes, Star Wars, WWE/W/F, Halo, TF, McFairlane etal, all these are huge peg warmers.
So yes it's a retailers issue not a manufacturers.

And as far as all of the DC related toys we have.....it's a real but I think they all will go on clearance, 3 artamis 6" from YJ, Star saphire, Golden pharaoh, Orange lantern Lex, Bats legacy catwoman, and I think we still have AC: Harley Quinn, and that's about it.

I don't like/agree with mattel on how they are going about club infinite and the others. for that I rather order directly form either BBTS, ebay or other online store....
VERY VERY insightful and informative posts boys, thanks for giving us the insight on how things really are
__________________
The Transformers!
Knowing Is Half The Battle!
Thunder, Thunder, Hoooooooo!!!!!
Tokusatsu all day everyday!
CHECK OUT OUR RESOURCES SECTIONS HERE!:
Transformers Database
GI Joe Database

Last edited by Shin Densetsu; 05-01-2012 at 09:46 AM..
Shin Densetsu is offline   Reply With Quote
Shin Densetsu
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Shin Densetsu
Find More Posts by Shin Densetsu
 
Premium Bandai

San Diego Comic Con SH Figuarts Dragon Ball Reference Guide Extreme Sets Dioramas New York Toy Fair Beasts of the Mesozoic
Latest Toy Discussion
 
The "Look At What I Just Got!" Thread
DC 3.75/4" Appreciation Thread
DC Multiverse and all McFarlane DC News Reveals and Chat
Storm Collectibles News Reveals and Chat
Hot Toys, Mondo, Threezero and 1/6th News Reveals and Chat
The NECA News Reveals and Chat Thread - Everything NECA
Hiya Toys News Reveals and Chat
S.H. Figuarts Dragonball News Reveals and Chat
Star Wars Black Series, Vintage Collection and Retro News Reveals and Chat
Jada Toys Street Fighter 6-Inch Action Figures
 
Latest Marvel Discussion
 
New Marvel Legends/6" Appreciation Thread
New Marvel 3.75" Appreciation Thread
 
Latest Customs and Fan Art
 
3D Printed Action Figures with Action Features
Wolfsbane
Game of death bruce lee
DC Creature Commandos The Bride 7"
XMen
 
Latest Collection Pics
 
Spastic for Plastic
My Mixed Collection
My Rotating Figure Display
My Collection/Office Display
 
Latest B/S/T
 
Marvel Universe est. 2014
 
Entertainment Earth

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:16 PM.

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS. Powered by vBulletin. Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.