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Originally Posted by bmorr

NOOOOOOOOO.


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Originally Posted by Greenskar

On the bright side, Remender confirmed that Uncanny X-Force will continue and that fall out from that book will affect Uncanny Avengers. Wolverine and the X-Men will also continue. And so will Secret Avengers.

Some of these books that are ending were due to hit their conclusions soon. Invincible Iron Man is a great example of a series that was reaching the end of what began about 5 years ago. Brubaker had a great run, one that defined a decade of some of the best Cap stories ever told. Same with Bendis' near decade long run on Avengers.

This isn't just a simple start over at #1, its almost a sort of changing of the guard on some of Marvel's biggest properties and a complete change of direction with new writers taking on these books and an opportunity to hopefully tell better stories...hopefully.

The real problem with that logic is lots of titles went hundreds of issues without needing a do over. Before they did that crappy Heroes reborn Avengers had 402 issues, Captain America and Thor had over 400, Iron Man had over 300. Creative teams came and went. Hell FF has over 600 issues (however they use their voodoo counting) and is their old SUper Hero comic (Journey has been around longer). When people left new stories followed the numbering. When Jack Kirby left FF at 111 did they stop and renumber? No and it makes no sense now just because people are leaving. The crazy shot is in a few years they will renumber the new series to fit into the old numbering pattern.


People only feel a number one is a starting point and they can get in easy. I thought that was the point of the entire .1 books. The idea of a number 1 makes a new series with no background is fucking stupid. Think about it you need to have some history or it makes no sense. History will always be referenced in one way or another. Old stories get mentioned somehow. They only way to make brand new stories is to reboot the entire thing. Go back and retell and edit the old stories and decide how they will be. Or maybe do an ultimate version. Use same names new concepts. Hell DC screwed it up worse. At least with Marvel doing whatever this is they have a reference. In DC tey have yet to decide what has or hasn't happened. They have totally monkeyed with everything and like the last two "fixes" they don't tell you the plan, because they have none. Not that is wasn't a good idea but if you are going to toss History they start new from page one. Don't say the universe is 5 years old and no supers existed before Superman, well except Batman and his brood. It just causes a problem because it is saying what you know doesn't count and what we think you should know we will tell you when we feel about it.

This new Marvel Now thing is some kind of bastardization of this. There will be a fall-out from AvX and everyone will have to deal with it. MAJOR CHANGES or so they have said. They need to work on stories to get back their market share not a gimmick. Changing the creative teams is a good thing as it gets new ideas but giving them new number ones? Bad idea because it sets a precedence that every time they want to do something like this they scrap the old way and try to pry extra cash. The real question should be how many will have alt covers so they can get you to buy more, after all DC had multiple covers for their reissues and Marvel can start out with it by having multiple covers from the get go.

This is not about story telling this is old Marvel greed and that is that. It is no wonder why Disney is letting them rape themselves while they worry about movies. Marvel will do anything to bring in cash anyway they can trick it out of people and Disney doesn't care as long as their is profit. Maybe they need to do comparisons for numbers. Say "Why are our books selling more than DC books because you are doing multiple covers? Can they stand on their own without it?"

And that is the facts