[Greenskar]

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Originally Posted by Kaewin

What is that from?






The real problem with that logic is lots of titles went hundreds of issues without needing a do over. Before they did that crappy Heroes reborn Avengers had 402 issues, Captain America and Thor had over 400, Iron Man had over 300. Creative teams came and went. Hell FF has over 600 issues (however they use their voodoo counting) and is their old SUper Hero comic (Journey has been around longer). When people left new stories followed the numbering. When Jack Kirby left FF at 111 did they stop and renumber? No and it makes no sense now just because people are leaving. The crazy shot is in a few years they will renumber the new series to fit into the old numbering pattern.


People only feel a number one is a starting point and they can get in easy. I thought that was the point of the entire .1 books. The idea of a number 1 makes a new series with no background is fucking stupid. Think about it you need to have some history or it makes no sense. History will always be referenced in one way or another. Old stories get mentioned somehow. They only way to make brand new stories is to reboot the entire thing. Go back and retell and edit the old stories and decide how they will be. Or maybe do an ultimate version. Use same names new concepts. Hell DC screwed it up worse. At least with Marvel doing whatever this is they have a reference. In DC tey have yet to decide what has or hasn't happened. They have totally monkeyed with everything and like the last two "fixes" they don't tell you the plan, because they have none. Not that is wasn't a good idea but if you are going to toss History they start new from page one. Don't say the universe is 5 years old and no supers existed before Superman, well except Batman and his brood. It just causes a problem because it is saying what you know doesn't count and what we think you should know we will tell you when we feel about it.

This new Marvel Now thing is some kind of bastardization of this. There will be a fall-out from AvX and everyone will have to deal with it. MAJOR CHANGES or so they have said. They need to work on stories to get back their market share not a gimmick. Changing the creative teams is a good thing as it gets new ideas but giving them new number ones? Bad idea because it sets a precedence that every time they want to do something like this they scrap the old way and try to pry extra cash. The real question should be how many will have alt covers so they can get you to buy more, after all DC had multiple covers for their reissues and Marvel can start out with it by having multiple covers from the get go.

This is not about story telling this is old Marvel greed and that is that. It is no wonder why Disney is letting them rape themselves while they worry about movies. Marvel will do anything to bring in cash anyway they can trick it out of people and Disney doesn't care as long as their is profit. Maybe they need to do comparisons for numbers. Say "Why are our books selling more than DC books because you are doing multiple covers? Can they stand on their own without it?"

And that is the facts

While you make some good points, and many of which I agree with, especially with the DC reboot reference and Marvels bastardization of it with Marvel Now I can't help but laugh at a comment that I hear often concerning "Marvel Greed" when put in the context of the comic book industry. While the prices are outrageous and events too saturating, I must commend Marvel's marketing endeavors for what is first and foremost a business strategy to keep books selling, which they do, and people employed. As far as greed, I'm sorry but I'm sure Marvels comic book sales are but a small percentage of the revenue intake that actually powers the beast known as Marvel Entertainment a subsidiary of The Walt Disney Company. The biggest money maker for Marvel and DC comes from the licensing of their intellectual properties in other forms of entertainment and merchandising.

While I haven't seen their Ledger, this is a company that was on the verge of Bankruptcy prior to the success of the first X-Men film distributed by Fox. While I may not like every event or story they turn out, I'm not going to go as far as to call something they've proven successful in the business, greedy, when its apparent they are trying to reach and be sensitive to a broader audience as well as maintain a sense of loyalty to long time fans. Its a damn difficult line to tread, but they're willing to take the risks. Guess we'll see where this risk takes them, but I can say based on their market share numbers month to month, their ROI is most likely favorable, which is interesting considering their unit sales are still below DC'S new 52 movement which I attribute to the steady $2.99 price that's much more attractive to the $3.99 price tag for the majority of Marvel's big franchises.