[Exodus]

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Originally Posted by Greenskar

Great analogy, I don't see Apocalypse as any greater a threat than Dark Phoenix. It all comes down to: my future > yours from the perspective of the characters involved in the stories.

Heck if I recall in the animated series Cable had to come back to stop Bishop from saving his future because it destroyed his. At some point these stories need to stop screwing around with time travel and make a actual compelling story about them dealing with the actual events in their respective time that resulted and have them make the most out of it.

I'm tired of the retcons that often result from these types of stories which often produce zero consequences at the end. At least the recent Age of Apocalypse series deals with that universe, mostly.

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Originally Posted by Iceman

I think that says it all to me. What would drive her to X-Force or is X-Force done killing maybe?

I think the motivations for Bishop made sense and all but he was one of my favorite X-Men. I just think they made him go too far with the things he did to get at Hope. Also, he left the details very vague on what Hope did, when, and why. I know that it a method for the writers to avoid backing themselves into a corner but it still didn't help him make his case. If they hadn't taken Bishop over that edge I think he would have been perfect for X-Force.

I hear you there. They have so many possible future timelines that none of them count or are really threatening. I do hate the device of using a big yearly event as an excuse to change some things around instead of writing those changes into the story in a natural way. It usually just ends up with characters being disrespected and a story that doesn't ring true, as with AvX. Usually the climax is a complete let down anyway. It's like the editors decide on something like Marvel Now and what they want out of it then come up with something quick to get them there.

Agree with both, too much time traveling on assumptions that this person will make the world dark and so forth...Heck wasn't Gambit branded a traitor too in the comics and 90s X-Men cartoon series? (sorry forget if it was one or both) And he turned out to be a ok still....Just keep writing the present!
Will be interesting to see how Uncanny X-Force turns out and the rest of the X-Titles after AVX....