[Iceman]

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Originally Posted by Greenskar

What this book was about to me was less that killing is bad although seemingly necessary depending on the situation, but more about the toll that killing actually takes on the human psyche. If you know or have ever met someone in the military or law enforcement who has ever taken a life they'll tell you that it's one of the worst feelings ever and that it will always weigh heavily on their conscience. This book took that notion and made these characters deal with the extreme cases of it. How would someone feel after killing a kid, their brother, their lover or their own son simply out of their potential for death and destruction rather than the crime they actually committed?

I agree with pretty much everything you said, especially this paragraph. They paid a heavy price for what they did but they also undoubtedly saved lives beyond counting and I think they all realize that as these villain HAD killed before (except the kid). Killing kidpocalypse was probably their only mistake and that's still up for debate but no one likes that they did it. Fantomex raising Evan shows that even he didn't like it. I don't think the book was trying to tell us that the killing wasn't needed but some of the characters maybe felt they caused a bit of it in the first place.

Psylocke saying they never should have started could just be out of place of pain but realistically she knows better. Psylocke is basically continuing on with X-Force even though you'd think she would want nothing more to do with the concept. Yes, she doesn't want to kill anymore but wouldn't she make to most since to walk away and disappear for awhile instead of starting up a new team?


Uncanny X-Force has been great and it's one of my all-time favorites so I am not trying to complain about it. I just feel that the whole point of the team was to allow Scott to walk away from the shady decisions and return to being the Captain America of mutants but with the AvX they threw all that away. If Marvel wanted to make Cyclops go all the way to the "doing what's necessary" near villain that they've made then wouldn't it have made more sense for Wolverine to be the odd man out? Have Cyclops restart the team in secret and such. I don't think this was in any way a problem with UXF but with the rest of what Marvel was doing. X-Men comics have been such a series of major shake-ups in recent years I almost feel like they should have just stopped with Second Coming and had X-Force as the only title.


I've only read Thunderbolts #1 so far but there wasn't much to chew on, just Ross assembling the team with a mission to copy the Punisher (sort of). The roster interests me but I will wait to see how they treat Deadpool before I decide where I think it's going. I appreciate silly Deadpool as much as the next guy but he's never been as interesting as when he was wearing the grey of X-Force, in my opinion.