Integration

Iceman · 02-26-2013, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bmorr

I always assumed earth ended up slightly communist after the third world war.

Also, fifty years of trek, and we've still never seen a starship toilet.

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Originally Posted by Shadowknight1

Prior to Picard's "Money doesn't exist in the 24th century" line in First Contact, there was obviously currency in Star Trek. It was called "credits". Good example is in "The Trouble with Tribbles" where Cyrano Jones was selling the tribbles at 10 credits a "head". Another comes from "Encounter at Farpoint" where Dr. Crusher sees some fabric she likes on Farpoint station and asks for it to be sent to the Enterprise when it arrives and to charge it to her.

Like I said, they seem to purposely avoid a lot of logistical things. Have we even seen a shower either? I guess there is that scene, I think in Insurrection, with the whirlpool-like tub Riker and Troy are in.

I know they mentioned credits (at least early on) and things but especially in DS9 Quark often mentions how Federation citizens don't use money. These statements are often contradicted in the same episode as Federation officers are easily able to produce latinum. Plus the matter of trade and personal property. Clearly there is some system of wealth but maybe no one is allowed to have more than a certain amount. Recipe for disaster in my opinion. I think the writers wanted to portray certain ideas but don't know how they would actually work out. It makes sense because if we had the solution we'd probably be trying it now.

The thing is that we never really see the proletariat. When you exclude random alien encounters 90% of people we meet are doctors, scientists, starship captains, Starfleet officers, etc. Heck, other than Chief O'Brien I can't think of a single Starfleet NCO or enlisted crewman (TNG era), and O'Brien still mentions going to the Academy. It's like all the lowest ranking people on the ship are random ensigns, which are still officers. Rarely do we meet an adult that human that doesn't have something going for them career-wise.

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Originally Posted by Riddick

Here are some pics of my collection. Most of it is stored in my garage and attic but here is some that I display.

That's hardcore bro. Thanks for sharing the pics.

02-26-2013, 07:50 PM	#83
Iceman MUtant Overlord Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,754	Quote: Originally Posted by bmorr I always assumed earth ended up slightly communist after the third world war. Also, fifty years of trek, and we've still never seen a starship toilet. Quote: Originally Posted by Shadowknight1 Prior to Picard's "Money doesn't exist in the 24th century" line in First Contact, there was obviously currency in Star Trek. It was called "credits". Good example is in "The Trouble with Tribbles" where Cyrano Jones was selling the tribbles at 10 credits a "head". Another comes from "Encounter at Farpoint" where Dr. Crusher sees some fabric she likes on Farpoint station and asks for it to be sent to the Enterprise when it arrives and to charge it to her. Like I said, they seem to purposely avoid a lot of logistical things. Have we even seen a shower either? I guess there is that scene, I think in Insurrection, with the whirlpool-like tub Riker and Troy are in. I know they mentioned credits (at least early on) and things but especially in DS9 Quark often mentions how Federation citizens don't use money. These statements are often contradicted in the same episode as Federation officers are easily able to produce latinum. Plus the matter of trade and personal property. Clearly there is some system of wealth but maybe no one is allowed to have more than a certain amount. Recipe for disaster in my opinion. I think the writers wanted to portray certain ideas but don't know how they would actually work out. It makes sense because if we had the solution we'd probably be trying it now. The thing is that we never really see the proletariat. When you exclude random alien encounters 90% of people we meet are doctors, scientists, starship captains, Starfleet officers, etc. Heck, other than Chief O'Brien I can't think of a single Starfleet NCO or enlisted crewman (TNG era), and O'Brien still mentions going to the Academy. It's like all the lowest ranking people on the ship are random ensigns, which are still officers. Rarely do we meet an adult that human that doesn't have something going for them career-wise. Quote: Originally Posted by Riddick Here are some pics of my collection. Most of it is stored in my garage and attic but here is some that I display. That's hardcore bro. Thanks for sharing the pics. __________________ BST Last edited by Iceman; 02-26-2013 at 07:53 PM..